Notts Forest 1-1 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Dire Wolf]

Look at the state of the positions of our midfield. You want to explain why we have difficulty scoring, start with looking at that. We're essentially playing with a back 8.

 

[Tredman]

Would hope Neto & Sarabia in for the two wider players could help a lot with that.

 

[Tony Towner]

...and they let us have the ball, so those positions are by choice

 

[MARKakaJIM]

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Midfield general retreating from battle!

 

[PuntsWolf]

I’m glad I found a first half graphic because the second half changes, positional changes for Nunes, Toti and Kilman would have messed up the 90 Grahphic.

Was one of the most baffling first half’s I’ve ever watched. Particularly when you factor in the level of opposition, thr zero press, the amount of possession, the zero attacking threat and still giving up some decent chances

 

[YoungWolf]

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It looks (literally) like a.. no I won’t say it

 

[Mel Evo]

Midfield general retreating from battle!

Don’t worry, he’s out for two games now so we can soar to new heights without the deadweight that is Ruben Neves holding us back. A glorious foretaste of next season, hooray.

 

[prawnking]

Why are we still doing this, with a new manager, in 2023??

 

[prawnking]

It looks (literally) like a.. no I won’t say it

It's even slightly less attacking than that!

 

[Tony Towner]

Moutinho and Nunes are the 2, continually picked to play in positions alien to them and that graphic shows you that they aren't even trying to do that

 

[Wolftone]

We move the ball too slow, it's two-touch all the time because of lack of movement in midfield. Nothing is created through the middle of the pitch. I'm hoping the lack of Neves might encourage Lopetegui to play Nunes through the middle of midfield and at least give another
option to Podence/Adama as an out-ball. Wouldn't hold my breath though.
He'll probably go with Lemina and Moutinho. Yawn.
*Neves not nerves. F***ing Auto correct

Think the diagram confirms this.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Don’t worry, he’s out for two games now so we can soar to new heights without the deadweight that is Ruben Neves holding us back. A glorious foretaste of next season, hooray.

If only it were so simple as best group of individuals = best team, the dynamics are far more complicated than that.

 

[Wolftone]

I'd play Collins in the 'Lemina' role, with Nunes in front of him.
But I'm not the manager.

 

[Tony Towner]

Thank fuck

 

[sycophantia]

If only it were so simple as best group of individuals = best team, the dynamics are far more complicated than that.

Haha, we've been here before. Yes of course it's more complicated than just picking your 'best' 11, but if you pick the best players in a role that suits them, it's a good start to base your tactics on.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Haha, we've been here before. Yes of course it's more complicated than just picking your 'best' 11, but if you pick the best players in a role that suits them, it's a good start to base your tactics on.

Maybe, depends how that individual's style affects the performance of those around them. You might have one player who's head and shoulders above the others but if you've not got anyone that compliments that approach then surely you ditch them and do what suits the majority?

Very few individuals are that good to justify an entire team being built around them, I don't see Neves in that bracket personally, even for a club of Wolves' stature. There have been perfectly acceptable performances without him before and there will be again. I mean look at that graphic posted earlier, he's not bringing anything to that performance that two very ordinary centre halves aren't already doing, hardly raising the bar.

 

[Tony Towner]

Waiting for him to have a poor game must have hurt Mark. We'd be down already if it wasn't for his performances this season. In some games he's been a one man driving force

 

[Dire Wolf]

Yeah, at times Neves has been the only positive to come out of a game. Newcastle at home early in the season he was immense. But, and I say this with some sadness, there are also times when you need a player to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and dictate it, and he just doesn't do it, when you feel like he could.

 

[Johnny75]

It's even slightly less attacking than that!

That's the worrying bit for me. The midfielders are so deep and far away from either wide or central forwards we never had a hope of scoring.

We were never going to draw Forest out of their block as they play on the counter.

I thought first half I was watching a Lage team. Thankfully the difference is Lop changes it.

There is something deeply wrong at our club.

 

[prawnking]

No player is beyond assessment and criticism, but there's a lengthy queue before we get to Ruben