Brighton 2-2 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Carsy]

Only seen highlights on MOTD as I'm away but as much as Sa was at fault for the first with rushed/poor distribution, he again pulled off some good saves, the long range effort from Baleba I think it was stood out, that I don't think Johnstone would have made

I think that’s what’s so frustrating though, does some excellent thing a then some bloody awful things like that. It’s the either 3/10 or 8/10

 

[Carsy]

Probably comes from the manager there though. 2-1 up deep into injury time, do they need to press that much. Not so much sit off us but don't commit 4 or 5 that high up. The rest that follows is horrendous though, the pass is dreadful and done under zero pressure. Next time that happens he is lumping the ball out of the stadium

I get what you’re saying, but being found in that position, would you expect us to go to the corner? Probably the right thing to do Ofcourse.

The pass is just bloody terrible

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think that’s what’s so frustrating though, does some excellent thing a then some bloody awful things like that. It’s the either 3/10 or 8/10

It's not new though is it, he was doing it in his "good" season (a season where he was a total magnet for giving away penalties, punched the ball in his own net twice and caused a goal by faking injury*). That's why we wanted to move on from him, you simply can't trust him. But early signs are we've messed up what should have been a simple bit of recruitment.



*On this note - can we stop getting him to go down with a phantom knock so we can have an impromptu team talk please. Not only is it fairly transparent cheating, but one day a ref is going to tell us to do one.

 

[Carsy]

It's not new though is it, he was doing it in his "good" season (a season where he was a total magnet for giving away penalties, punched the ball in his own net twice and caused a goal by faking injury*). That's why we wanted to move on from him, you simply can't trust him. But early signs are we've messed up what should have been a simple bit of recruitment.



*On this note - can we stop getting him to go down with a phantom knock so we can have an impromptu team talk please. Not only is it fairly transparent cheating, but one day a ref is going to tell us to do one.

Not saying it is new, but it’s still bloody frustrating.

Regarding the knocks I’m not too bothered by it just because all times will feign injury to take the sting out of a game etc. did have to laugh when comms yesterday did allude to the fact that team were chatting to O’Neil and Bentley hadn’t even been sent to warm up.

Thought Cunha after his head brushed the players thigh was pretty embarrassing though the way he stayed down. Sad the games played like that now

 

[Johnny75]

Thought Cunha after his head brushed the players thigh was pretty embarrassing though the way he stayed down. Sad the games played like that now

I know it's just ignorance here but Cunha banged his head pretty hard, you see his neck snap across pretty violently on the replay. It was accidental but nevertheless it can be dangerous to the injured player and play should've been stopped and Cunha checked.

It's a head injury and the prick of a ref that is Michael Oliver didn't stop it.

I find it sad that football fans are still ignorant about head injuries in this day and age.

 

[Carsy]

I know it's just ignorance here but Cunha banged his head pretty hard, you see his neck snap across pretty violently on the replay. It was accidental but nevertheless it can be dangerous to the injured player and play should've been stopped and Cunha checked.

It's a head injury and the prick of a ref that is Michael Oliver didn't stop it.

I find it sad that football fans are still ignorant about head injuries in this day and age.

Only seen it once, so maybe need to see it again. Just felt it looked very soft and abit of a ‘I’ve lost the ball, il stay down job’

If I’m incorrect then fair enough, but it most definitely isn’t from a place of ignorance. Although I’m sure you meant it as a generalisation of fans in general

 

[Johnny75]

Only seen it once, so maybe need to see it again. Just felt it looked very soft and abit of a ‘I’ve lost the ball, il stay down job’

If I’m incorrect then fair enough, but it most definitely isn’t from a place of ignorance. Although I’m sure you meant it as a generalisation of fans in general

You are wrong and yes it is ignorance of most football fans but also your original post which wasn't intentional.

 

[Tredman]

Got to admire the optimism I guess

 

[Johnny75]

Got to admire the optimism I guess

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As long as he believes it that's a good start.

 

[Jinky]

I think GoN is a flawed manager. Last season alot of people kind of wrote off post March due to squad etc. whilst he was obviously handicapped, he did show signs of not being what the media thought he was (progressive English manager especially after his MNF cameo)

This season quite clearly has been shocking. I’m not going to sit here and pull wool over anyone’s eyes, we’re on 2 points from 9’games FFS. I just look at the other teams near the bottom and think we’ll have enough, with or without O’Neil. After today at worst we will be 4 points from safety.

With the players we’ve got in specific positions and in comparison of other teams, I just don’t see us finishing bottom 3.

Southampton are shit, Ipswich not much better, then you’ll have 3/4 teams who could stake a claim for 18th IMV

I just think we will have the players to keep us in the league, maybe more in spite of GoN not because of him.

I'd love to know who these "three worse teams" are?

Southampton & Ipswich will be down there for the majority of the season. Leicester? They've currently won AND drawn more games than us. You'd expect them to be in and around the relegation scrap but currently we need to win three games and hope they lose the equivalent amount just for us to get ahead of them. Same with Everton.

Palace got their season starting win yesterday and you'd imagine they'll now kick on (great game for them to gain some momentum this weekend too...) - the other teams that you'd maybe say *could* get dragged in, like Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, Forest are sat comfortably in mid-table or in Forest's case, pushing the European places (if only we could have a manager like theirs).

There's not three worse teams in the league than us. There are three worse SQUADS in the league than us, but that's not the issue. The issue is the manager in charge of the squad, and how said manager is setting his team up and sending them out.

As Jeff Shi is a monumental grade A weapon and is unable to see the issue, we'll be stuck with the manager until it's too late. I'd actually go as far as saying lose v Palace and they might as well start preparing for the championship already - as mad as it sounds. A defeat there puts us a minimum of 7 points adrift from safety already. Absolutely insane that we've got ourselves in to this position.

 

[leedswolf]

I know it's just ignorance here but Cunha banged his head pretty hard, you see his neck snap across pretty violently on the replay. It was accidental but nevertheless it can be dangerous to the injured player and play should've been stopped and Cunha checked.

It's a head injury and the prick of a ref that is Michael Oliver didn't stop it.

I find it sad that football fans are still ignorant about head injuries in this day and age.

It's ridiculous how slow the powers that be are in embracing other sports' attitude to head impact assessment. The player goes off (a substitute is allowed on) for the HIA. If the HIA is fine, the player returns and the substitute goes back to the bench. If the player fails HIA, the substitute continues.

In a game where a lot is being done researching the negative effects of heading a ball it still baffles me that with head collisions it's virtually the same as it's always been (minus the sponge and smelling salts).

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I like the grading of HIA in rugby league. Most serious grade you aren't coming back on no matter what and that grading is a snap decision as soon as the player is taken off the field and before assessment tests are done about recovery from the bang. Eminently sensible approach to try and minimise risk.

 

[Carsy]

I'd love to know who these "three worse teams" are?

Southampton & Ipswich will be down there for the majority of the season. Leicester? They've currently won AND drawn more games than us. You'd expect them to be in and around the relegation scrap but currently we need to win three games and hope they lose the equivalent amount just for us to get ahead of them. Same with Everton.

Palace got their season starting win yesterday and you'd imagine they'll now kick on (great game for them to gain some momentum this weekend too...) - the other teams that you'd maybe say *could* get dragged in, like Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, Forest are sat comfortably in mid-table or in Forest's case, pushing the European places (if only we could have a manager like theirs).

There's not three worse teams in the league than us. There are three worse SQUADS in the league than us, but that's not the issue. The issue is the manager in charge of the squad, and how said manager is setting his team up and sending them out.

As Jeff Shi is a monumental grade A weapon and is unable to see the issue, we'll be stuck with the manager until it's too late. I'd actually go as far as saying lose v Palace and they might as well start preparing for the championship already - as mad as it sounds. A defeat there puts us a minimum of 7 points adrift from safety already. Absolutely insane that we've got ourselves in to this position.

I mean if you want to take everything said literally then we’d be here all day.

3 worse teams/squads, not arsed how you want to phrase it. IMV I still don’t think we will go down based on the players we have, both starting 11,squad, however you’d prefer to phrase it.

If we don’t get 4 points minimum from next 2 games I will start to shift my stance.

What makes you think Palace will kick on now? They may do, they may not. I’m 99% sure if we beat palace on Saturday you won’t be ‘I assume we will kick on now’

 

[thisisgil]

 

[Tony Towner]

What a load of bollocks

 

[prawnking]

Wolves DHOTY award right there

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've seen us win 3-2 at Pompey from 2-0 down with about 20 to go in 2000
Draw 2-2 with Sheff Utd having been 2-0 down on 90 mins in 1995
The OG 4-3 vs Leicester in 2003
Win 2-1 at Brentford under Lambert when it was 1-0 to them with five or so to go in 2017
Then Saturday

That's about it

So technically we have done it over a number of decades, I wouldn't say it's a particularly strong trait though...

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You really are a smug piece of work

I think this is at least in part because you are pissed off you were made to look ridiculous about your "smug" and condescending view that putting someone on Sa to protect him would give penalties away.

If i make a statement, am ridiculed for it, and then in some way i'm proven at least partly right, i will say so.

I hope that's ok with you Paddy.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Jesus...I don't know what's worse this season; it being a probable slow relegation death for us, or having it soundtracked by your constant smug contrary mary responses to every post on every thread have a day off FFS

Mol mix is often (rightly) criticised for being a forum that is just a message board, that has little to no actual discourse or conversation, if you'd prefer that, perhaps you should sign up for that forum instead?

If i disagree with a view, i will say so, and i will give my reasons why. There is nothing wrong with that, i make no apology for that, in the same way as you make little apology for calling me a cunt last year because i disagreed with your view (which frankly look ridiculous, especially now) regarding Palestine and Israel, perhaps we should all behave like that instead?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

What’s random about it when he’s referring to this?

Wolves Kit Thread

Still a bag of wank though. Wolves fan, not a SUDU fan

www.wolvesforum.co.uk

If that's what he was referring to, then fine.

However that thread was 6 weeks ago, i didn't read it or respond to it, and we've worn that kit more than once since that post anyway, so when i saw that post regarding the kit being illegal, i thought it was "random".

I have no idea why that made you jump up and down, i truly believe that if someone else had made that post you wouldn't have even blinked.