Wolves 1-1 Newcastle: Verdict Thread

[Wolfmania]

I’m not linked into the Wolves Twitter crowd well (deliberately for obvious reasons…). For those that are, is there a similar reaction of Bruno out developing? I recall the consensus in the summer was that the Bruno out message seemed to be localised to this forum mainly and that a lot of people wanted Bruno to have more time / money before that. Is that changing in the ground as well as twitter?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The tide is slowly turning.

Because he's had money and time and we're still shit. They might be behind the curve but not that far.

 

[StuardoWulf]

Wanting your team to lose is something that I could never get on board with. in fact it’s a fucking disgrace.
yeah we seem as clueless as ever especially trying to protect a one goal lead. Hwang is a fucking liability and podence is just nothing 9 times out of 10. Raul acts like a prick with his bollox fancy dress
we still look hard to score against which will save us to an extent we won’t go down imo I just hope this striker comes in and works. They won’t sack Lage anytime soon however much wailing and gnashing of teeth come from SM. They chose him for the project and until he fails in an big way he’ll survivE. Personally I don’t think he’s anywhere near good enough but also I don’t want managers sacked after 4 games.

we did it with mick he should have gone the summer before

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We'd be sacking him after 42 games, not 4.

P42 W15 D8 L19 F40 A47 Pts 53

It's crap and the second half of that tenure has been awful.

 

[Lupollet]

Because the manager is a fucking tactical pygmy

Incorrect. He’s a tactical amoeba. Not a very clever one either.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Still should have won that game comfortably. Neto’s chance was a little harder than I thought at the time, but still harder to put it over than on target. Nunes‘ header was terrible, it was an open goal and he was under no pressure. And we manage to not make the best of many promising situations.

Where was the Nunes from the first half against Tottenham? He was missing for large parts of the game and Moutinho was largely anonymous. That midfield three should not have been surrendering possession to a very average Newcastle midfield.

I don’t think we will be relegated but the players are there for a tilt at the top end of the table but I fear we will tread water in the middle most of the season

 

[wanderer89]

Not excusing the Nunes header but it looked like the Newcastle defender got a touch which wouldn’t have helped.

 

[SSB]

As far as I’m aware from my position in the South Bank, I have yet to hear verbally any “Bruno Out” dissent being directed at the dugout. Our main worry is to find another manager with a four-syllable name so we can still sing the Neves song from our rapidly dwindling back catalogue of chants.

 

[The Bear]

I know we lost two points yesterday but regardless of the performance it was fine margins that did for us ultimately.

Maybe Neto doesn't push Fraser quite as hard and we get away with it and are 2-0 up. Hwang's clearance doesn't drop perfectly to a Newcastle player. ASM doesn't hit a worldy volley from a ball dropping out of the sky.

Lot of what ifs and buts, but it was much more likely we won that game than conceded right at the death.

They had that header at the end too, but he never even connected with it, it came off his shoulder by the looks of it. I thought it had come off Neves to start with.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

We drew you bell.

 

[AndyWolves]

I know we lost yesterday but regardless of the performance it was fine margins that did for us ultimately.

Maybe Neto doesn't push Fraser quite as hard and we get away with it and are 2-0 up. Hwang's clearance doesn't drop perfectly to a Newcastle player. ASM doesn't hit a worldy volley from a ball dropping out of the sky.

Lot of what ifs and buts, but it was much more likely we won that game than conceded right at the death.

They had that header at the end too, but he never even connected with it, it came off his shoulder by the looks of it. I thought it had come off Neves to start with.

The Willock chance (first half i think) and the penalty call were also fine margins that could easily have gone against us.

 

[Mel Evo]

I know we lost yesterday but regardless of the performance it was fine margins that did for us ultimately.

Maybe Neto doesn't push Fraser quite as hard and we get away with it and are 2-0 up. Hwang's clearance doesn't drop perfectly to a Newcastle player. ASM doesn't hit a worldy volley from a ball dropping out of the sky.

Lot of what ifs and buts, but it was much more likely we won that game than conceded right at the death.

They had that header at the end too, but he never even connected with it, it came off his shoulder by the looks of it. I thought it had come off Neves to start with.

Feels like a defeat… because we play like a bunch of losers.

Ive no idea what more evidence the Bruno defenders want. Feels like the Yes Prime Minister episode on the nuclear option. When do you press the button, when they’re at Watford Gap services?? When we’re so adrift no one decent will want to come? Of course not, he just needs more time because, well, stuff…

 

[Lupo]

Though to be fair, it felt like a loss!

 

[The Bear]

We drew you bell.

Sorry I mean lt to say we lost two points. Got lost in the edit.

And is there really any need for the last part?

 

[Wolvensam]

I don’t understand this “lost the dressing room” stuff. Boly is having a bit of a paddy as he wants a move away - you can have one player throw his toys out the pram without it being a squad attitude.

Jonny also played well yesterday. Raul worked hard and has always been partial to a wacky celebration.

 

[Johnny75]

I know we lost two points yesterday but regardless of the performance it was fine margins that did for us ultimately.

Maybe Neto doesn't push Fraser quite as hard and we get away with it and are 2-0 up. Hwang's clearance doesn't drop perfectly to a Newcastle player. ASM doesn't hit a worldy volley from a ball dropping out of the sky.

Lot of what ifs and buts, but it was much more likely we won that game than conceded right at the death.

They had that header at the end too, but he never even connected with it, it came off his shoulder by the looks of it. I thought it had come off Neves to start with.

It’s always about fine margins.

You change those fine margins by tactics and subs. That second half was one of capitulation, trying to control something we never had control of in the first place.

It was clear we could create chances in the first half but this is now the third game in a row where we have tried to ‘control’ the second half and we’ve lost all three of those halves.

At some point you have to look at the manager and say this ain’t working cupcake.

 

[Tony Towner]

It’s always about fine margins.

You change those fine margins by tactics and subs. That second half was one of capitulation, trying to control something we never had control of in the first place.

It was clear we could create chances in the first half but this is now the third game in a row where we have tried to ‘control’ the second half and we’ve lost all three of those halves.

At some point you have to look at the manager and say this ain’t working cupcake.

A penalty save off that being 4/4

 

[Wolvensam]

Bruno’s downfall yesterday was the subs first and foremost. We drop off in second halves because he makes changes far too late and by that time the opposition has their tails up and the control is gone.

As I said yesterday: cowardly and playing it safe. It also annoyed me that we decided to match Newcastle’s style of play as the game went on. We’re at home: we should be dictating how we play/the tempo/etc.

 

[jdrodrigues]

It’s always about fine margins.

You change those fine margins by tactics and subs. That second half was one of capitulation, trying to control something we never had control of in the first place.

It was clear we could create chances in the first half but this is now the third game in a row where we have tried to ‘control’ the second half and we’ve lost all three of those halves.

At some point you have to look at the manager and say this ain’t working cupcake.

And hasn't been for a long time now, it's not a mere dip in performance or results.

 

[PuntsWolf]

I know we lost two points yesterday but regardless of the performance it was fine margins that did for us ultimately.

Maybe Neto doesn't push Fraser quite as hard and we get away with it and are 2-0 up. Hwang's clearance doesn't drop perfectly to a Newcastle player. ASM doesn't hit a worldy volley from a ball dropping out of the sky.

Lot of what ifs and buts, but it was much more likely we won that game than conceded right at the death.

They had that header at the end too, but he never even connected with it, it came off his shoulder by the looks of it. I thought it had come off Neves to start with.

Fine margins like Neves’ shot going through a ball sized gap in Willocks legs?

That’s why football isnt 17-16. The ones that go through the small gaps go in. The ones that get blocked or deflected don’t.

99/100 Neves shot gets blocked, deflects, straight at keeper or he miscues. None of that happened so it went in.

99/100 The same applies for the ASM volley. It didn’t and he lasered it right in the corner.

The better players you have, the more fine margins you get