Refereeing question

[VanWolfie]

Just to prove that I do not automatically back up match officials, I just cannot understand why John Terry was not flagged offside when he scored the late equaliser. The assistant was in the correct position, and had a clear view. The goal should not have stood.

Frank,

As an assessor, what would you have said to Mark Clattenberg today after the Man City v Spurs game. In my view he made an egregious error in awarding the penalty. How could he have decided that the handball was deliberate when Sterling had his back to the ball?

I've always regarded Clattenberg as one of the top referees, but today has given me pause to re-think my position. How do you see today's incident, Frank?

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Frank,

As an assessor, what would you have said to Mark Clattenberg today after the Man City v Spurs game. In my view he made an egregious error in awarding the penalty. How could he have decided that the handball was deliberate when Sterling had his back to the ball?

I've always regarded Clattenberg as one of the top referees, but today has given me pause to re-think my position. How do you see today's incident, Frank?

Personally I thought he got it wrong. He was in a good position so I was surprised he awarded a penalty. I noticed at the time that Mark Clattemberg indicated that Sterling had got his arm out and that is why he gave the penalty, but as you rightly say, Sterling had his back to the ball, and would not have known where the ball would hit him. He was just trying to block the cross.

 

[VanWolfie]

Personally I thought he got it wrong. He was in a good position so I was surprised he awarded a penalty. I noticed at the time that Mark Clattemberg indicated that Sterling had got his arm out and that is why he gave the penalty, but as you rightly say, Sterling had his back to the ball, and would not have known where the ball would hit him. He was just trying to block the cross.

You cannot get much sleep if you can reply to my post at 4:27 am. I'm eight hours behind you, so it's still Sunday evening here. I'm impressed!

 

[FrankMunro-371]

You cannot get much sleep if you can reply to my post at 4:27 am. I'm eight hours behind you, so it's still Sunday evening here. I'm impressed!

I do like to rise fairly early. However, one part of your question that I did not answer. I very much doubt that the assessor would have mentioned the penalty incident. Free kicks that are awarded are done so in the opinion of the referee, and we cannot question that.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...3587/half-time-whistle-denies-accrington-goal

Trevor Kettle you utter, utter jobsworth.

 

[Johnny75]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...3587/half-time-whistle-denies-accrington-goal

Trevor Kettle you utter, utter jobsworth.

What a total bellend.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

I must express my disappointment with the referee. There is a very good reason why the full time whistle is often blown when a goal kick is taken, or when there is a throw in around the half way line. It prevents arguments that the referee had blown up just as a team was in a good attacking situation. While a referee should only play the 90 minutes plus any added on time for injuries, substitutions, etc., common sense should prevail when blowing the full time whistle.

 

[Penk Wolf]

That is horrendous.

 

[Paul]

Why don't they consider the rugby idea of not blowing for full time until the ball goes out of play ?

 

[leedswolf]

What would the reaction have been if it was the other way around? Seems to me he's damned either way. Id he a jodsworth or just applying the laws of the game?

 

[Penk Wolf]

There wouldn't have been a reaction. I'd imagine the other team would have expected the goal to stand.

Who in their right mind would blow the whistle after he'd taken a shot?

 

[PuntsWolf]

Must me some match fixing involved. No other explanation

 

[leedswolf]

There wouldn't have been a reaction. I'd imagine the other team would have expected the goal to stand.

Who in their right mind would blow the whistle after he'd taken a shot?

The person who's watch indicates that it's now half time.

 

[leedswolf]

Must me some match fixing involved. No other explanation

The same could be argued if he had let the goal stand.

 

[Tony Towner]

Must me some match fixing involved. No other explanation

Sky are saying he was looking at his watch rather than the ball. I prefer to think he's incompetent rather than bent

 

[leedswolf]

Shades of Clive Thomas in 78 during a WC game. It wasn't allowed then either.

 

[VanWolfie]

Shades of Clive Thomas in 78 during a WC game. It wasn't allowed then either.

Yes, but after the Clive Thomas incident, FIFA ruled that referees should not blow the final whistle when a goalscoring opportunity is materializing. That's the common sense rule that Frank is talking about. I remember clearly FIFA issuing that directive to referees back in 1978. Hence, Kettle was wrong according to the directives given to referees about interpretation of the final whistle.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

At a recent referees meeting I made the suggestion that at set pieces when players are pulling each other all over the place in the penalty area, rather than having a word with the players, the referee should allow the game to continue, and award a free kick for the offence. If that means awarding a penalty kick, then so be it. After a few penalties, all this nonsense will soon stop.

 

[Lord Knows]

If a player after scoring a goal has his shirt physically removed by another player is that a bookable offense?

 

[FrankMunro-371]

If a player after scoring a goal has his shirt physically removed by another player is that a bookable offense?

That is a very good question. And I would think that the player who removed the shirt would be cautioned, but I might have to check on that.