Wolves 1-2 Man City: Verdict Thread

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I can only tell you how it comes across to me, the same way as another poster continually calls me snide and smug, that's his reality.

Fair.

I can only assure you that I'm not trying to annoy people.

 

[Trips]

If we can all now park the nonsense of the last couple of pages and get to just discussing the match, not posting styles, that would be wonderful. Thanks

Trying to enjoy a peaceful cup of tea after an easy morning of work

 

[Dinowolf]

Bernado Silva is a fucking cheat.

As has been said Silva had been running into and pushing Sa all game, but the ref team didn't do anything about it.
For their second goal he backed into Sa, impacting him considerably, and IMO that threw Sa off balance and obviously taking his concentration away from the game. Offside is not the issue, it was interfering with the goalkeeper.
I'm amazed there seems to be no photo of it.

Bernado Silva is a fucking cheat, and thanks to the officials, he unbelievably got away with it.

(repeated from relegation thread)

 

[Tony Towner]

I don't think cheat is a fair characterisation, otherwise anyone that deliberately fouls someone is. Personally I think there's a higher bar for that word. If you think he's fouling Sa then that's for the referee to sort

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Given how keepers get protected and that Sa had been given a free kick for Silva antics in the first half, had Sa gone down for the goal we'd probably have got a point?

 

[Tony Towner]

Given how keepers get protected and that Sa had been given a free kick for Silva antics in the first half, had Sa gone down for the goal we'd probably have got a point?

In hindsight he should have sold it, but don't blame him for not doing so.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

In hindsight he should have sold it, but don't blame him for not doing so.

Yep.

I also think he comfortably saves it if he is set

 

[Dinowolf]

I don't think cheat is a fair characterisation, otherwise anyone that deliberately fouls someone is. Personally I think there's a higher bar for that word. If you think he's fouling Sa then that's for the referee to sort

You're entitled to your opinion, but IMO anyone who deliberately fouls someone repeatedly during the game is a cheat.
I agree the ref should have sorted it, but he didn't, so what does that say about him?

 

[Tredman]

It’s fair to say that most of City’s players are cheats in a very snide and sneaky manner. They are a great team who are throughly dislikeable in their behaviour on the pitch.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I geniunely dont think Silva is a cheat at all. He has clearly been given instruction by Pep to take that role at the set piece, because Pep has presumably identified a weakness in referee interpretation that can be exploited to the advantage of his team. That's actually good management and tactics, much as it fucking ANNOYS ME!

My problem is not with either of those two players in the scene we saw play out. It is in consistency of refereeing interpretation when contrasted with our disallowed goal. It is what it is, I guess.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yep.

I also think he comfortably saves it if he is set

Yeah. It's a bit weird how it goes in but I'm not going to blame him

 

[Dinowolf]

It’s fair to say that most of City’s players are cheats in a very snide and sneaky manner. They are a great team who are throughly dislikeable in their behaviour on the pitch.

Exactly. That includes Bernado Silva.

 

[Loki]

For their second goal he backed into Sa, impacting him considerably, and IMO that threw Sa off balance and obviously taking his concentration away from the game. Offside is not the issue, it was interfering with the goalkeeper.

Yes. Done to disrupt the goalkeepers attention. Worked a treat.

 

[Tony Towner]

You're entitled to your opinion, but IMO anyone who deliberately fouls someone repeatedly during the game is a cheat.
I agree the ref should have sorted it, but he didn't, so what does that say about him?

What's your view on Joao Moutinho?

 

[Wolftone]

Gamesmanship or cheating its a fine line.
These guys are professionals, they make a living bending the rules to gain an advantage.
To me the problem is the offside rule. Silva was offside and interfering with play. Old school. But it made sense to me.
As it currently stands the goal counts imo.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Don’t think he saves it even if there’s no one within 5 yards of him. Those headers from 5 yards out always go in. No chance to get his hands up.

 

[Tony Towner]

Don’t think he saves it even if there’s no one within 5 yards of him. Those headers from 5 yards out always go in. No chance to get his hands up.

Assuming he doesn't come for it

 

[BillyDee]

Don’t think he saves it even if there’s no one within 5 yards of him. Those headers from 5 yards out always go in. No chance to get his hands up.

We were told with the Kilman incident last season that that is irrelevant.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Assuming he doesn't come for it

Well yeah but that’s not what I was getting at. I don’t think it’s “weird that it goes in” for example, quite the opposite.

We were told with the Kilman incident last season that that is irrelevant.

Not arguing that point either.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It definitely is a bit weird.



If he's properly set then he saves that. He's not set because of the player in front of him, who shouldn't be allowed to a) arguably foul him and b) remain in an offside position, two yards from goal.