Middlesboro 1 - 2 Wolves: Verdict

[Penk Wolf]

Somewhat lopsided match report in the Guardian!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/30/middlesbrough-wolves-championship-match-report

What an awful take on the Costa foul. I assume she’s a Boro fan?

 

[darlowolf64]

Well that was, in the end, a great day out! You couldn't ask for more commitment or passion from a team and our fans played a part as well - never stopped singing all game and got right behind the team. In the cold light of day though the team cannot lose discipline like they did in that mad period as on another day we would lose. Really great to meet Darlo, Aiki and Lycan as well and hope to see you all again soon!

Was really good to meet you, Dave and I'm sure I'll see you at Sunderland

 

[The Bear]

You'd assume so with nonsense like this:

[FONT=&quot]Traoré is arguably the division’s most dangerous attacking force[/FONT]

 

[Johnny75]

Somewhat lopsided match report in the Guardian!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/30/middlesbrough-wolves-championship-match-report

Journalist showing she knows fuck all about football. What. A. Shock.

Modern journalist match reports really are abysmal.

 

[Pompey Wolf]

I think she's focused on the north east reporting for them for years, so yeah she is biased.

 

[PuntsWolf]

It’s horrific. In real time it looks a blatant trip (albeit accidental). Costa goes tumbling and Friend nearly does as well.

The journo obviously doesn’t understand that if you clip someone heel when they are running full pelt it makes them fall over. Regardless of whether it’s “minimal”, it knocks you off balance

 

[Norman Deeley]

Having finally watched the game back I'd say that Leadbitter's challenge on Cav in the 11th minute is a red. It is certainly every bit as much a red as Batth vs Bristol.

And on the question of Pulis the Cheat. Supposing we get a free kick 25 yards out: is Neves allowed to dry one side of the ball with a towel to make it swerve? Obviously not - so how is it legal to have towels to dry the ball for a throw in? Surely there has to be some law about "using objects that are not part of normal kit" or something. How difficult is it for the FA to enforce that? Allow a Pulis team to use a towel and you might as well allow Barry Douglas to use sandpaper to get reverse swing on a free kick.

 

[Johnny75]

Having finally watched the game back I'd say that Leadbitter's challenge on Cav in the 11th minute is a red. It is certainly every bit as much a red as Batth vs Bristol.

And on the question of Pulis the Cheat. Supposing we get a free kick 25 yards out: is Neves allowed to dry one side of the ball with a towel to make it swerve? Obviously not - so how is it legal to have towels to dry the ball for a throw in? Surely there has to be some law about "using objects that are not part of normal kit" or something. How difficult is it for the FA to enforce that? Allow a Pulis team to use a towel and you might as well allow Barry Douglas to use sandpaper to get reverse swing on a free kick.

You can bet your lowest hanging bollock that if Pulis could use sandpaper and get away with it he would.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Having finally watched the game back I'd say that Leadbitter's challenge on Cav in the 11th minute is a red. It is certainly every bit as much a red as Batth vs Bristol.

And on the question of Pulis the Cheat. Supposing we get a free kick 25 yards out: is Neves allowed to dry one side of the ball with a towel to make it swerve? Obviously not - so how is it legal to have towels to dry the ball for a throw in? Surely there has to be some law about "using objects that are not part of normal kit" or something. How difficult is it for the FA to enforce that? Allow a Pulis team to use a towel and you might as well allow Barry Douglas to use sandpaper to get reverse swing on a free kick.

Football's don't use the same physics as a cricket ball to generate curve/swing.

Towels are legal as long as they're available to both sides I believe, think Stoke tried to scam it before by having one stitched into Delap's shirt.

 

[Johnny75]

You sure about that Mark?

The laws of physics would remain the same no matter what ball it is. Make one side different to the other and it will swerve.

The nerd bit: The towel is used to dry the ball so players have more grip and can impart spin. It would have no effect for free kicks as modern boots have a thermoplastic woven into the upper so they can impart greater spin or swerve with their feet as the thermoplastic applies friction across a plane to the ball.

 

[Tony Towner]

Shotton weakens Boro anyway, firstly because since he left Pulis the first time he has largely played centre half and isn't a very good right back. Secondly his throws although long are loopy which gives plenty of opportunity for defenders to set themselves. The key to Delap's success was the trajectory. Somehow he managed to throw it flat with pace as well as long, he was a freak which is why most teams who have tried to replicate it have failed.

 

[Norman Deeley]

Football's don't use the same physics as a cricket ball to generate curve/swing.

Towels are legal as long as they're available to both sides I believe, think Stoke tried to scam it before by having one stitched into Delap's shirt.

I'm not especially making a physics point - you may well be right. I just think if you can use a towel for a throw-in to gain an advantage, then presumably you can use a towel at a free kick to gain an advantage. It just doesn't seem right to me that you can use an outside object during the game, with the purpose of gaining an advantage within the game

 

[Johnny75]

I'm not especially making a physics point - you may well be right. I just think if you can use a towel for a throw-in to gain an advantage, then presumably you can use a towel at a free kick to gain an advantage. It just doesn't seem right to me that you can use an outside object during the game, with the purpose of gaining an advantage within the game

See above why it would have no effect at free kicks.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Shotton weakens Boro anyway, firstly because since he left Pulis the first time he has largely played centre half and isn't a very good right back. Secondly his throws although long are loopy which gives plenty of opportunity for defenders to set themselves. The key to Delap's success was the trajectory. Somehow he managed to throw it flat with pace as well as long, he was a freak which is why most teams who have tried to replicate it have failed.

Friend’s throw is even worse than Shotton’s.

 

[NE66Wolf]

I'm not especially making a physics point - you may well be right. I just think if you can use a towel for a throw-in to gain an advantage, then presumably you can use a towel at a free kick to gain an advantage. It just doesn't seem right to me that you can use an outside object during the game, with the purpose of gaining an advantage within the game

Perhaps we should deflate the ball a little to make it easier for Ruddy to catch....

 

[MARKakaJIM]

You sure about that Mark?

The laws of physics would remain the same no matter what ball it is. Make one side different to the other and it will swerve.

The nerd bit: The towel is used to dry the ball so players have more grip and can impart spin. It would have no effect for free kicks as modern boots have a thermoplastic woven into the upper so they can impart greater spin or swerve with their feet as the thermoplastic applies friction across a plane to the ball.

Well yes, the laws of physics would still apply but the different balls in different sports lean on different principles to gain movement. In football it's the spin rather than the difference in surfaces that creates the movement.

I'm not especially making a physics point - you may well be right. I just think if you can use a towel for a throw-in to gain an advantage, then presumably you can use a towel at a free kick to gain an advantage. It just doesn't seem right to me that you can use an outside object during the game, with the purpose of gaining an advantage within the game

I don't see any reason you couldn't dry the ball prior to a freekick, I wouldn't expect you to gain any benefit from doing so though. If anything you might just make it easier for the keeper to try and hold onto.

 

[Tony Towner]

One is on the pitch the other off which is the difference, someone isn't going to come running on the pitch with a towel when there is a free kick

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

My view has become who cares. We have beaten Pulis Ball and hopefully won't have to play against it again next season.

 

[Johnny75]

Drying the ball wouldn't have an effect on a free-kick or corner.

 

[Boozad]

Hopefully we never have to play it again.