Middlesboro 1 - 2 Wolves: Verdict

[malta mick]

Was Ruddy really guilty of time wasting ? i wasn't watching at that particular moment of the incident. We've seen some really bad opposition goalies take incredible time to take a goal kick recently.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I don't think it was a particularly excessive bit of time wasting but Attwell wanted to be centre of attention for a moment or two, the fucking gimp.

 

[Kenny]

23 seconds when he was booked so yes he was but it is not normal to get a booking on the first instance. I've seen keepers take the piss for 96 mins at Molineux and only get warnings.

 

[The Bear]

In football it's the spin rather than the difference in surfaces that creates the movement.

You must have missed Neves' shot which had literally zero spin on it, yet moved around and dipped like a bastard.

I do think that the physics of a football and cricket ball are different though. Aerodynamics would play a big part IMO as footballs are larger, filled with air, and made of much more lightweight material than cricket balls which are smaller, harder and denser.

Cricket balls only have their surface material to generate any movement and to a much smaller extent the spin on them.

Footballs being lighter would be more influenced by turbulence, the amount of spin, lack of spin, how hard they are hit, etc. Maybe even the difference in pressure of the air inside and outside too.

 

[Dinowolf]

You're not supposed to use a towel as it is not part of the official equipment named in the Laws (Law 4).

I believe that if someone objects to the ref. then he would have to stop its use, although the PL have an agreement that if both clubs in a game agree to its use then it may be used.

However, there are many instances of unsafe practice in games such as the wearing of jewellery even if covered by a plaster, and the none use of shin pads which are supposed to be essential.

 

[AndyWolves]

Was Ruddy really guilty of time wasting ? i wasn't watching at that particular moment of the incident. We've seen some really bad opposition goalies take incredible time to take a goal kick recently.

That's what really took the piss and showed that Attwell wanted to fuck us over

I think I even saw on twitter the Frank didn't think the ref was any good and was making strange decisions

 

[MARKakaJIM]

You must have missed Neves' shot which had literally zero spin on it, yet moved around and dipped like a bastard.

I do think that the physics of a football and cricket ball are different though. Aerodynamics would play a big part IMO as footballs are larger, filled with air, and made of much more lightweight material than cricket balls which are smaller, harder and denser.

Cricket balls only have their surface material to generate any movement and to a much smaller extent the spin on them.

Footballs being lighter would be more influenced by turbulence, the amount of spin, lack of spin, how hard they are hit, etc. Maybe even the difference in pressure of the air inside and outside too.

That's the 'knuckle ball' effect.

Without any spin on the ball you lose the sort of gyroscopic effect which keeps the ball in stable flight and leaves it exposed to all sorts of effects from the atmosphere. You do see some players playing on it from time to time, Ronaldo had great success with it on freekicks at one point, David Luiz to a lesser extent.

You're generally playing on unpredictability as much as anything with that though, nothing like the intentional curve you see more commonly.

 

[Alan]

Drying the ball wouldn't have an effect on a free-kick or corner.

Wouldn't the weight of the added moisture affect things?

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[MARKakaJIM]

The weight difference between a wet and dry ball must be miniscule, it's not like old days of leather balls soaking up loads of water and weighing more than a house.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Can this be moved to the Climate Change thread and I’ll change the name to Science Nerds thread...

 

[Johnny75]

Wouldn't the weight of the added moisture affect things?

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Mark's right. You can also add that the water will not stick to the ball due to PU panels and the forming of the panels giving almost zero friction.

 

[Alan]

Damn kids with your newfangled ball tech...

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[sycophantia]

Just occured to me that Douglas has been getting some negetive comments recently about his defending but thought he defended quite well in this game apart from the first 5 minutes when Traore ripped him and Boli up

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

No arguments over Neves 2nd yellow, thought the first on was harsh, but having been given one should never have made the 2nd.
Doc was different 2 players jumping for the ball you cant jump without lifting your arms. Both players ran towards each other.
The foul on Cav should have been a red but it was Attwell in charge.
The foul by friend was a clear red, yes there was a defender running back but he was 15 yards right and 10 yards behind and was never going to get back in time.

As for the journo in the guardian what do you expect from that fucking rag, the journ's a useless blind bastard.

 

[Jabbawolf]

No arguments over Neves 2nd yellow, thought the first on was harsh, but having been given one should never have made the 2nd.
Doc was different 2 players jumping for the ball you cant jump without lifting your arms. Both players ran towards each other.
The foul on Cav should have been a red but it was Attwell in charge.
The foul by friend was a clear red, yes there was a defender running back but he was 15 yards right and 10 yards behind and was never going to get back in time.

As for the journo in the guardian what do you expect from that fucking rag, the journ's a useless blind bastard.

Thought someone had hacked your account until the last sentence :icon_razz:

 

[YoungWolf]

I had forgotten that it was Ruddy’s throw to Cavaleiro on the counter attack where Leadbitter could have been sent off for that dreadful tackle. Why would Ruddy put his team mate in danger like that? wouldn’t have happened with Norris in goal

 

[The Bear]

I think you're making an issue out of nothing there. He threw to him because he was in acres of space. How was he supposed to know Leadbitter would come steaming over and wipe him out?

 

[Tony Towner]

Whooshhhhh

 

[StuardoWulf]

I had forgotten that it was Ruddy’s throw to Cavaleiro on the counter attack where Leadbitter could have been sent off for that dreadful tackle. Why would Ruddy put his team mate in danger like that? wouldn’t have happened with Norris in goal

tongue in cheek surely!

 

[Penk Wolf]

Neves’ 2nd was a yellow all day long - that Costa tackle, couldn’t the lino have helped Mr Magoo out?

From Frank:

That's good. I have been reading match report on TWF as a guest, and Jabbawolf asked on post 48 whether the assistant could have helped with the Costa incident.

The fact is Attwell instructs his assistants not to get involved. His poor use of them is well known, and many AR's dread being appointed when Attwell is ref.