Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Cannot blame var for last night. After 6 months the club knows how var is being used this season, so to be offside (even by inches) from a well rehearsed set piece is inexcusable. Either the coaching staff got it wrong, or Jota did. If he stands a couple of yards further back it gives Neto more time to run into an onside position before the ball is played back to him. Or Jota can take an extra touch to give Neto time. Or he can stand a yard closer to the goal line - if the defender follows then it is easier for Neto to get onside, and if the defender does not follow then Jota has a clear run into the area.

 

[BillyDee]

You absolutely can blame VAR for that. If it is used as IFAB say it should be used, the goal is given. The way PGMOL use it there is no guarantee it was offside (even by inches).
Next season there will be no lines drawn on the pitch, just a quick look at a replay, and only clear and obvious offsides given, not studs being offside.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

But we know how PGMOL uses it, so there is no excuse for giving them an opportunity to make that decision. It wasn't open play - where every touch is improvised. It was a set piece situation that the club presumably practices in training.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

But we know how PGMOL uses it, so there is no excuse for giving them an opportunity to make that decision. It wasn't open play - where every touch is improvised. It was a set piece situation that the club presumably practices in training.

But they don’t have Hawkeye and lines do they? To everyone in the entire football world that’s onside because his entire body is behind Jota. Unfortunately the studs on his trailing leg are offside, which just shows up once again how much of a farce the offside tech is.

PGMOL could have trialled this system on the videos of last years games and realise what they were going was going to ruin the game, disallowing a huge proportion of sound goals. They shouldn’t even have had to do that, it shouldn’t have been created. IFAB did not want it this way. I don’t know how Riley keeps his job at the end of the season

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

I'm not saying that PGMOL are correct in their interpretation. I'm saying that we know what their interpretation is, so it is inexcusable to not follow their rules in a situation where the club regularly tries a specific set piece routine.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Just watched the extended highlights and the second the goal is scored Rodgers is scrutinizing it on a screen as if he's spotted something. Fuck right off you hawk nosed twat, like that was visible to the naked eye.

I've woken up this morning thinking of what might have and should have been last night

I noticed that at the time. I think Rogers had worked on getting his defence to step up if we went short, and we'd also worked on mitigating it by going backwards.

It's immaterial if we take any of our other chances, the last of which at the very least Raul should be burying.

 

[Boozad]

Inexcusable :icon_lol:

Neto looks along the line, see he's onside and keeps a well worked routine going. Is he supposed to bend his neck back and check to see if his studs are past some imaginary line?

 

[Tom Hark]

Raul’s late blocked effort, the disallowed goal from a set piece, Jota’s effort saved by their keeper, the other Raul header that nearly went out for a throw in.... We created more than enough chances but players were wasteful. If the current players keep missing chances, the only way to improve it is get better players. None of our forwards are world class.

Spot on. As DW implied, we're a good side, but not yet a great one. Not having a go – I love this side and I'm loving the journey we're on – but we're undeniably still on our way to the top. When we get there, we'll be beating teams like Leicester regularly, even with VAR giving us a goal handicap. At the moment, though, we're not quite good enough to overcome both. (I'm struggling to see any difference in quality between them and us, tbh, but there must be a reason apart from VAR for the points difference.)

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Inexcusable :icon_lol:

Neto looks along the line, see he's onside and keeps a well worked routine going. Is he supposed to bend his neck back and check to see if his studs are past some imaginary line?

No, but if any part of his foot is offside then it is a badly worked routine.

 

[Kenny]

No, but if any part of his foot is offside then it is a badly worked routine.

What? You are asking for a team not to do a routine if they are not 100% sure they can pull it off? Each team we play react different when we take a short corner. Some keep a player on the line, some times the player tracking the short pass option remain goalside, yesterday Leicester stepped, it appears 0.0000000000001 second quicker than Neto. You are essentially expecting the team to do a VAR style thought process in 0.4 seconds.

Your point stands if Neto was clearly offside but since it took the bloke who got one of these for Christmas

2 minutes of pissing around to find a part that was offside it does not put the failure at our feet (or studs)

 

[Derby Wolf]

No, but if any part of his foot is offside then it is a badly worked routine.

Jesus fucking Christ.

I got nothin'

 

[Boozad]

No, but if any part of his foot is offside then it is a badly worked routine.

Wow.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Come on lads, this is not controversial. Enforcement of a rule has changed. Everyone knows it has changed. Adapt training ground routines accordingly. The players do not have 0.4 seconds - they have all the time they want before taking the corner kick. Either the coaching or the implementation was not up to scratch.

 

[Kenny]

Jesus fucking Christ.

I got nothin'

I'm now joining this club

 

[AndyWolves]

Come on lads, this is not controversial. Enforcement of a rule has changed. Everyone knows it has changed. Adapt training ground routines accordingly. The players do not have 0.4 seconds - they have all the time they want before taking the corner kick. Either the coaching or the implementation was not up to scratch.

He's right you know.

When we're running through these routines we have to consider potential offsides now, if Jota is a pace to his left it removes the issue

Neves Vs man utd was close too. We've got to adapt

 

[Kenny]

Just checking how many goals we have lost because of poor training ground work on short corners, meaning we fail to get studs back on side, versus how many short corners we have taken....

 

[The Bear]

Its all ifs and buts. Yes Jota could have stepped further left, but as far as we were concerned the routine worked as planned. It was only forensic examination and an unlucky trailing boot which scuppered it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

You can have dopey routines (throws or corners) like that which are blatantly schoolboy stuff where some idiot waits for a return while standing obviously offside, and his equally stupid mate knocks the ball back to him despite seeing where he is.

That is not the case last night, sorry but no. You're not going to be conscious of that "infringement", no sane person watched that in real time or even on the first set of replays and thought "could be offside", not one single Leicester player even half-appealed at the time.

 

[AndyWolves]

Just checking how many goals we have lost because of poor training ground work on short corners, meaning we fail to get studs back on side, versus how many short corners we have taken....

Thing is we don't know how many short corners have actually had an offside in as they don't check the ones we don't score from.

Neves was bloody tight and obviously one ruled out yesterday. These are the rules now and the environment we operate in, we need to be taking potential offsides out of the equation or we'll always been vulnerable to these kinds of decisions

 

[Kenny]

Its all ifs and buts. Yes Jota could have stepped further left .

I would blame Neto, He passed it 0.2 seconds too early, so Jota was not in the correct, pre determined when tried out in Spain and we already knew exactly how Leicester would defend against us, position