Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

[AndyWolves]

You can have dopey routines (throws or corners) like that which are blatantly schoolboy stuff where some idiot waits for a return while standing obviously offside, and his equally stupid mate knocks the ball back to him despite seeing where he is.

That is not the case last night, sorry but no. You're not going to be conscious of that "infringement", no sane person watched that in real time or even on the first set of replays and thought "could be offside", not one single Leicester player even half-appealed at the time.

Agreed, yet the offside still stands. It's bullshit, but to ignore it and not to try to mitigate is missing an opportunity

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I would blame Neto, He passed it 0.2 seconds too early, so Jota was not in the correct, pre determined when tried out in Spain and we already knew exactly how Leicester would defend against us, position

Also I recommend that in future Neto takes the corner and immediately holds his right leg behind his back until Jota plays it back to him, hopping away down the touchline. Problem solved. Might look a bit weird though.

Or we could sort out the rubbish system, whichever.

 

[AndyWolves]

Also I recommend that in future Neto takes the corner and immediately holds his right leg behind his back until Jota plays it back to him, hopping away down the touchline. Problem solved. Might look a bit weird though.

Or we could sort out the rubbish system, whichever.

That won't happen until next season, until then we should work our routines so that offside is taken out of the equation

 

[Tony Towner]

In the new world how you can work a short corner like that which takes out any potential offside when you don't know what the opposition is going to do is beyond me. The only guarantee is swinging the ball in first time

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Just checking how many goals we have lost because of poor training ground work on short corners, meaning we fail to get studs back on side, versus how many short corners we have taken....

Kenny, let's forget var for a moment, and go back to last season. Suppose we tried the same routine and the linesman flagged for offside. Yes we wanted to blame the linesman but ultimately it was not his fault. The player was offside. So either the routine was badly coached or a player made a mistake.

This season we all hate var, and with good reason. But on a set piece situation we should not be making this mistake.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I'm sorry but that's nonsense.

 

[Kenny]

In the new world how you can work a short corner like that which takes out any potential offside when you don't know what the opposition is going to do is beyond me. The only guarantee is swinging the ball in first time

Then we have to work out how to go for a header without heading it directly at a team mates arm or going in for a challenge that the on field ref thinks is fine but the fuckwit in a cupboard thinks is. Training for these is going to be ace

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

In the new world how you can work a short corner like that which takes out any potential offside when you don't know what the opposition is going to do is beyond me. The only guarantee is swinging the ball in first time

But we could have done. Jota stands further left, further back, or delays passing it back. And if we could have then we should have.

 

[Law's Bus]

There's only one answer to this.

Nuno out.

They're his players, and his corner routines. If he can't get his players to play without knowing that their trailing leg studs haven't moved by the requisite number of millimetres, then he should head back to Portugal, and take them with him.

 

[AndyWolves]

But we could have done. Jota stands further left, further back, or delays passing it back. And if we could have then we should have.

This.

I'm not sure why people aren't getting this.

The rules have changed therefore we have to change. If we don't we'll continue to get caught out.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But we could have done. Jota stands further left, further back, or delays passing it back. And if we could have then we should have.

And this "delay" adds a second for Leicester to be set for the far post header back over to Boly.

Blaming the routine is really not the way to go here, especially as pretty much nothing PROVES there was even an offside.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

This.

I'm not sure why people aren't getting this.

The rules have changed therefore we have to change. If we don't we'll continue to get caught out.

We have a 50-50 record on "getting caught out".

 

[Andre]

There's only one answer to this.

Nuno out.

They're his players, and his corner routines. If he can't get his players to play without knowing that their trailing leg studs haven't moved by the requisite number of millimetres, then he should head back to Portugal, and take them with him.

It's about time someone said this.

 

[AndyWolves]

There's only one answer to this.

Nuno out.

They're his players, and his corner routines. If he can't get his players to play without knowing that their trailing leg studs haven't moved by the requisite number of millimetres, then he should head back to Portugal, and take them with him.

It was fractional, but why not work the corner in a way where it's not even a possibility

 

[Kenny]

It was fractional, but why not work the corner in a way where it's not even a possibility

Is there such a thing? any corner routine can lead to a goal that is ruled out because VAR has found a mm of a player in an offisde position

 

[Boozad]

I'm not sure why people aren't getting this.

Because it's stupid.

 

[Tony Towner]

It was fractional, but why not work the corner in a way where it's not even a possibility

How? Neto needs the angle he crosses from to hit Doherty taking out those in the middle

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Watching the cricket yesterday in the pub pre-match.

Bit of a shocker in England's favour (hit Bavuma's glove rather than his pad), clearly the umpire has had a nightmare there, reviewed and TV intervenes to overturn what would have been a proper injustice.

If there's anything remotely close then it stays with the on field umpire. There has to be conclusive, obvious proof to turn that decision around.

We have to go back to on field primacy or nothing will change. If they seriously mess up or there's something off the ball that they couldn't be expected to see between them, then fine, have a word. Get him to go and have a look for himself if you want given the facility is there. Otherwise leave well alone.

When you have a farce where even Mike Dean didn't know who was supposed to be offside there - we certainly didn't inside the ground, once again communication was woeful, no information on the screen about who we're supposed to be checking and a replay that was popped up for a second at absolute best (and I can't see the best these days all the way to the opposite corner of the ground to a fairly low res screen!) - then it just emphasises what a broken system we have.

Feel free to go through any week of Bundesliga match reports and count the number of VAR controversies. If they happen then they'll get mentioned. But amazingly they have very few and we seemingly have multiple events every single week. They should maybe reflect on that.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Precisely

 

[AndyWolves]

How? Neto needs the angle he crosses from to hit Doherty taking out those in the middle

Jota is a yard to his left when he receives the ball, Neto is then behind Jota and not offside when Jota returns it