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Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

Surprising levels of negativity again, I thought we played well. Created more than enough and barely gave them a sniff, they've been in the top four all season and they barely laid a glove on us. Saiss and Neves were both outstanding, Raul's general play was absolutely fine (other than his weird throw in) but the finishing wasn't there. Hard to knock him when he has literally 20 goals already this season.

I fancy us to beat Espanyol and Norwich and then it all looks pretty healthy.

Not going into VAR as we know they've made a complete Horlicks of it.
 
I wonder if he was checking something they'd intentionally targeted.

That short corner routine has been very frequent from Wolves so perhaps they'd worked specifically on a way to nullify it? They didn't have anyone on the posts so Neto is in an offside position for any return pass straight away, then Leicester pushed out quickly as soon as he takes it too so Neto has got to work even harder to get back onside to receive the pass.

Might just be their typical corner defence and sloppiness from Wolves to not ensure they won't fall foul of it but can't be bothered to trawl through loads of Leicester highlights to find out.

Not a single player appealed for offside so doubt it was a plan of theirs. They got lucky.
 
Surprising levels of negativity again, I thought we played well. Created more than enough and barely gave them a sniff, they've been in the top four all season and they barely laid a glove on us. Saiss and Neves were both outstanding, Raul's general play was absolutely fine (other than his weird throw in) but the finishing wasn't there. Hard to knock him when he has literally 20 goals already this season.

I fancy us to beat Espanyol and Norwich and then it all looks pretty healthy.

Not going into VAR as we know they've made a complete Horlicks of it.

All of this !!
 
As with Southampton, their players were in position ready to kick off when the dreaded purple screen appeared
 
I don't think we played well overall really, too slow too conservative and a couple of players way off. Defensively though we were very good and to keep a clean sheet against the 3rd placed team without them really creating anything has got to be good.

That said people seem happy to draw with say Chelsea but not Leicester (who are better)

On to VAR - Just Fuck Off. My season ticket will go despite being better off than I have ever been. I don't like to be so angry and I don't like the palpable anger of the crowd. I think this bollox will take us back to the voilence of the 70's / 80's and I dont want any part of it.
Some wise person should come up with an organised protest.
 
Surprising levels of negativity again, I thought we played well. Created more than enough and barely gave them a sniff, they've been in the top four all season and they barely laid a glove on us. Saiss and Neves were both outstanding, Raul's general play was absolutely fine (other than his weird throw in) but the finishing wasn't there. Hard to knock him when he has literally 20 goals already this season.

I fancy us to beat Espanyol and Norwich and then it all looks pretty healthy.

Not going into VAR as we know they've made a complete Horlicks of it.

Yep, VAR and Raul’s finishing aside, I thought we were excellent. Neves was great at breaking forward, nicely complemented by Donk - was something different to the normal 2. Saiss was superb, as were all the back 3 really. Would have preferred Doc to come off as I felt the frequent stoppages disrupted us - not really possible with Buur the only option. Yesterday was a day when it would have been nice to sub Raul for Cutrone for the last 15...
 
The atmosphere last night was the first time it has got really ugly. I can see a serious disturbance over a VAR decision in the future.
 
Surprising levels of negativity again, I thought we played well. Created more than enough and barely gave them a sniff, they've been in the top four all season and they barely laid a glove on us. Saiss and Neves were both outstanding, Raul's general play was absolutely fine (other than his weird throw in) but the finishing wasn't there. Hard to knock him when he has literally 20 goals already this season.

I fancy us to beat Espanyol and Norwich and then it all looks pretty healthy.

Not going into VAR as we know they've made a complete Horlicks of it.
I agree with a lot of this, and for what it’s worth, I don’t think people have been hugely negative. I think it’s fair to acknowledge that we have 1 win in our last 7 league games and that last night was a bit of a missed opportunity, regardless of where Leicester are in the table, without feeling the need to call out anyone for being negative.

I do agree that Saiss and Neves were both excellent last night.
 
You can’t blame a pregnant woman for his performance. He’s definitely been scoring elsewhere.

Amidst all the anger doom and gloom - this deserved slightly more recognition

Must be my simple sense of humour but I laughed!
 
I agree with a lot of this, and for what it’s worth, I don’t think people have been hugely negative. I think it’s fair to acknowledge that we have 1 win in our last 7 league games and that last night was a bit of a missed opportunity, regardless of where Leicester are in the table, without feeling the need to call out anyone for being negative.

I do agree that Saiss and Neves were both excellent last night.

I just think people are increasingly expecting us to put together top four levels of form when we've never really done that consistently at any point over the last 18 months. We're not at that level yet, our current position is more or less right.
 
If you want your style you’d better push for a change of manager then

I have nothing wrong with the managers style as the default package. But sometimes (like last night after the red) it calls for a slightly riskier approach (which is then basically no risk with the way leicester were playing and a man down). They were their for the taking and again we didn’t take it. Schmeichel had nothing to do.

The team is growing and developing, but if we keep treating every game as an away game against a top 4 team then we will struggle to develop further.
 
Not hitting the target isn't the fault of the manager's tactics though. We had plenty of shots and chances.
 
The VAR system is filled with hypocrisy and double standards.
Example last nights goal was chalked off due to being offside, but had Leicester scored from a corner incorrectly awarded that would be deemed fine. Scoring from a free kick won from a player diving is fine but fouling a player 50 yards from goal in the build up to a goal is unfair but handling the ball in the build that far back is ok.
Biggest one is accidental handball in direct build up to a goal is not fair but a defender accidental handball and possibly preventing a goal scoring opportunity is ok.
 
Pretty much every rule change in football in the last 40 years has been done to benefit the attacking element of the game. Implementation of VAR has completely undone all of it. If VAR creates the impetus for rule changes such as any part of the player onside is onside then it will be acceptable. Other wise bin it.
 
We played very well in limiting a good Leicester side to 3 shots, and resorting to diving (Maddison’s a tosspot still then). We also created enough to win the game, and I’d have expected Raul to score the late header.

I do agree that we don’t create enough when we need to really push on though. The red card should have meant we could push forward more but we didn’t noticeably change anything (other than the subs).

I thought Diogo struggled, and should have been subbed earlier. Neto is playing really well at the moment which is great to see, and Willy Boly is absolutely fantastic.

It was a good performance with room for improvement, and VAR is still all kinds of bullshit.
 
Not hitting the target isn't the fault of the manager's tactics though. We had plenty of shots and chances.

I’m not using this game in isolation. It’s on an ongoing theme.

But as for yesterday, few chances from set peices and the two Raul headers in open play he should have done better with (for a player of his quality) but by no means sitters. Not really much else, the Adama snapshot the keepers always going to deal with.

We as fans believe we have a forward line worth £200m+. So if we are struggling to score goals with world class players who we can’t improve upon then what’s the only other thing we can change?
 
I totally disagree with the mcmanaman style analysis of "we weren't gung-ho enough". We've just held a very good team to a draw knowing that we've had another goal chalked off due to forensic over use of VAR.

Being gung-ho would have played right into the strengths of Vardy, probably isolating Coady and creating space for Vardy to play on his shoulder.

Perhaps we could have brought Adama on a touch earlier but everyone seems to forget we have to play a slightly conservative game given we've had 40 games so far this season!
 
I’m not using this game in isolation. It’s on an ongoing theme.

But as for yesterday, few chances from set peices and the two Raul headers in open play he should have done better with (for a player of his quality) but by no means sitters. Not really much else, the Adama snapshot the keepers always going to deal with.

We as fans believe we have a forward line worth £200m+. So if we are struggling to score goals with world class players who we can’t improve upon then what’s the only other thing we can change?

Raul’s late blocked effort, the disallowed goal from a set piece, Jota’s effort saved by their keeper, the other Raul header that nearly went out for a throw in.... We created more than enough chances but players were wasteful. If the current players keep missing chances, the only way to improve it is get better players. None of our forwards are world class.
 
Raul’s late blocked effort, the disallowed goal from a set piece, Jota’s effort saved by their keeper, the other Raul header that nearly went out for a throw in.... We created more than enough chances but players were wasteful. If the current players keep missing chances, the only way to improve it is get better players. None of our forwards are world class.

Like i said, I’m not counting this game in isolation...

I mentioned the two set pieces (Boly and Raul) and then Raul’s additional two headers.

Jota’s effort is routine for the keeper, on that angle on his weak side it’s need something special to go in.

Leicester have put away the shite in this league and drawn or lost everytime they’ve played anyone decent. They might be 3rd but they really aren’t that good and their position is false in this average season for most clubs.
 
I've think we've only had 4 PL games this season where we've not scored? And three of those had VAR intervention?

We've now improved our solidity with the return of Boly, though our forwards are in a little bit of a poor spell of form. I'm not worried about it in the slightest and I disagree that it's a major issue for us at the moment (especially taking into account the volume of games).
 
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