Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

[Jinky]

For me, its since the Liverpool away game that it been difficult. Couldn't get my head around that game and then the Man Utd Cup replay, I essentially gave up watching after Neto had his goal ruled out. The game was on but my interest levels just fell through the floor but this was the first time at Molienux it has destroyed my spirit. After we celebrated last night I jokingly said to my brother "now we wait for VAR to find a reason to wipe that out"...fuckers.

It isn't going to change this season and from what I am hearing and reading those in charge of VAR think they are doing a spiffing job and the majority of fans are behind them and their decisions so I don't hold much hope in things changing next season.

As I’ve said a couple of times, Peter Walton was delighted with the decision. Whilst the referees, officials and everyone involved with the decision making process are living in their little bubble where they believe it’s actually improved the game, nothing will change. Fuck the fans and everything else.

Robbie Savage, Paul Ince & Jake Humphries all thought it was a farce.

 

[arklowolf]

It won’t. That’s the way we play.

Is the correct answer.
I thought the tactics were spot on.
Rui had virtually nothing to do against a side containing Vardy, tielemans, perez, madison and barnes.
We did enough to win the game and on most occasions would have done, that without Moutinho and Adama for most of the game too.

 

[Tredman]

Wolves 0-0 Leicester: VAR Rinse & Repeat Verdict

There’s an assumption that the supporters at the ground will suck up any old shit and keep going - we’ve had fences, batons, police horses, Hillsborough and kept going. This is the first time they have actually ruined the game.

The Sky 6 will always have the tourists so probably won’t notice much difference but attendances and, more importantly the atmosphere, will drop at other teams. I suppose the aim has always been to sate and grow the tv audience, job done I guess.

 

[The Bion]

The point that we're not scoring enough is reasonably fair but equally I'd agree we're being profligate, not just in terms of chances created but opportunities for chances wasted. We pick the wrong option too often.

Ultimately though someone other than Raul has to start scoring goals on the regular. Last season it was Jota and everything was fine, this year his form's in the dumps and we're suffering as a result. Traore's chipped in with a couple but I can't see him being a frequent scorer at the moment, Doc isn't the same threat as last season due to the system change and/or not being fit, Jonny's never really been much of a goal threat (though he does get in decent positions fairly often) and the midfield 2 sit so are reliant on long-rangers which they more often than not don't get chances for (it was notable last night Leicester were very switched on to some of our previous tricks...2 men over to prevent Traore running in behind from FKs like he did at Bournemouth, always someone on the edge of the box looking for the cutback to Neves)

It's why I'm a bit peeved Neto has been bumped, he looked like he was genuinely coming into form and offering something new.

 

[Tredman]

Neto started yesterday though..?

 

[The Bion]

Neto started yesterday though..?

And his set pieces were good and he generally looked a threat. He started because (I assume, admittedly) Traore wasn't fit, as he was the first to come off. Might be reading too much into it but it suggests that Jota's ahead of him in the pecking order.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Just accept mid table then

If you want your style you’d better push for a change of manager then

 

[slink]

I'm still fuming from last night to be fair, VAR is just bullshit in these instances. I know you can't say what would have happened had the goal been allowed but we've scored twice against Leicester this season, conceded 0 and drew both games. I was equally frustrated with our finishing though to be fair especially Raul, he's a fantastic player and obviously has scored a lot of goals but he misses a lot of very good chances, the header right on 90 minutes is a sitter and he should be scoring. VAR and our inability to finish at key points in games will cost us unless we improve.

What last night also proved is that ex pros. fans and even those playing don't actually know the rules. From watching it back, the commentary team and those in the studio didn't know that you can't be offside from a corner so were sure Jota was offside, this got through to the fans at the stadium hence why everyone was so pissed off, i'd say that was as angry and utterly fucked off i've been at a game. When it was then confirmed it was Neto everyone couldn't get their head around him being offside because the ball went backwards, the rule has always been no matter what direction the ball travels in then if the player is in an offside position then it's offside. My problem is the forensic analysis of where Neto's boot is which clearly doesn't give him an advantage which is what the offside rule is all about.

Would also like to add Ruben Neves is quickly becoming the player we all hoped he would, he's world class at the moment. By far the best player on the pitch with special mentions to the back 3 though especially Saiss who was outstanding again.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

I'm still fuming from last night to be fair, VAR is just bullshit in these instances. I know you can't say what would have happened had the goal been allowed but we've scored twice against Leicester this season, conceded 0 and drew both games. I was equally frustrated with our finishing though to be fair especially Raul, he's a fantastic player and obviously has scored a lot of goals but he misses a lot of very good chances, the header right on 90 minutes is a sitter and he should be scoring. VAR and our inability to finish at key points in games will cost us unless we improve.

What last night also proved is that ex pros. fans and even those playing don't actually know the rules. From watching it back, the commentary team and those in the studio didn't know that you can't be offside from a corner so were sure Jota was offside, this got through to the fans at the stadium hence why everyone was so pissed off, i'd say that was as angry and utterly fucked off i've been at a game. When it was then confirmed it was Neto everyone couldn't get their head around him being offside because the ball went backwards, the rule has always been no matter what direction the ball travels in then if the player is in an offside position then it's offside. My problem is the forensic analysis of where Neto's boot is which clearly doesn't give him an advantage which is what the offside rule is all about.

Would also like to add Ruben Neves is quickly becoming the player we all hoped he would, he's world class at the moment. By far the best player on the pitch with special mentions to the back 3 though especially Saiss who was outstanding again.

The reason you cannot be offside from a corner is the ball has to be played Forward

 

[Carrotdude]

These two 0-0 draws will look like much better results if we get 10 points from the next 4. If not then both look like missed opportunities.

 

[slink]

The reason you cannot be offside from a corner is the ball has to be played Forward

No it doesn't. You cannot be offside from a goal kick, throw in or a corner and it has nothing to do with the direction of the ball. The ball can still be played forward from a corner if you put right on the edge of the quadrant and pass towards the byline.

 

[Lupo]

Just watched the extended highlights and the second the goal is scored Rodgers is scrutinizing it on a screen as if he's spotted something. Fuck right off you hawk nosed twat, like that was visible to the naked eye.

I've woken up this morning thinking of what might have and should have been last night

 

[Tredman]

Imagine giving this as offside and slapping yourself on the back for a job well done.


https://twitter.com/westywwfc/status/1228621015783280640?s=21

 

[Kenny]

Just watched the extended highlights and the second the goal is scored Rodgers is scrutinizing it on a screen as if he's spotted something. Fuck right off you hawk nosed twat, like that was visible to the naked eye.

I've woken up this morning thinking of what might have and should have been last night

Rodgers does that for every goal they concede. All part of how they try and spot a weakness to address. Nowt to do with their own VAR check.

 

[The Bear]

No it's not
To be offside the following is and always has been required

2 players between the opposing player and the goal line at the moment the ball is kicked.
Player must be in front of the ball
The ball must be played forward
I missed one the player must be in the opponents half

The ball having to be played forwards is completely wrong.

PGMOL released a clarification confirming this last night (which I now can't seem to find).

 

[The Bear]

It’s the stupidity of the them thinking it’s infallible. Here’s the next frame after Neto was given offside. Ball is still on Jota’s foot:

https://twitter.com/ballywolves1/status/1228615551834038273?s=21

They take the still from the first frame where the ball is in contact with the foot, not the last. That is when the pass is "initiated".

Also that picture is too blurry to be conclusive. Looks to me like the ball has already left his foot.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The short corner routine was very similar to the one that almost got the Neves thunderbastard chalked off against United earlier in the season. VAR were aching to disallow that goal as well.

 

[Lupo]

Rodgers does that for every goal they concede. All part of how they try and spot a weakness to address. Nowt to do with their own VAR check.

Ah fair enough.

Still a twat claiming that they dominated the game though

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Just watched the extended highlights and the second the goal is scored Rodgers is scrutinizing it on a screen as if he's spotted something. Fuck right off you hawk nosed twat, like that was visible to the naked eye.

I've woken up this morning thinking of what might have and should have been last night

I wonder if he was checking something they'd intentionally targeted.

That short corner routine has been very frequent from Wolves so perhaps they'd worked specifically on a way to nullify it? They didn't have anyone on the posts so Neto is in an offside position for any return pass straight away, then Leicester pushed out quickly as soon as he takes it too so Neto has got to work even harder to get back onside to receive the pass.

Might just be their typical corner defence and sloppiness from Wolves to not ensure they won't fall foul of it but can't be bothered to trawl through loads of Leicester highlights to find out.

 

[Kenny]

Well possession wise they did for 70 mins but created 3 chances and 2 of them were from 25+yards out. Just standard manager speak when you have got away with one.