Things that make you SAD thread.

[Parkins left foot]

USA apparently had 10,000 deaths by shooting last year - we had 30 in the UK (even if we allow for population levels that's no more than 200 over here)

Right to bear arms clearly has no responsibilities attached to it!

 

[Tredman]

Shocking reading some of these stats here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

 

[SSB]

The videos of Vegas were the first thing that I saw when I arrived at work today and they genuinely shook me up. The fire was relentless, solid bursts of machine gun fire sprayed into the crowd.

Watched the footage this morning as it broke and it was horrendous. I love Vegas, it's such an awesome place to visit and I have never felt anything but safe there.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

This event will change nothing.

But surely it should.

 

[UKYankieWWFC]

But surely it should.

Agreed it should. But probably won't. Due to the outdated 200 year old constitution

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Agreed it should. But probably won't. Due to the outdated 200 year old constitution

I must admit to not knowing an awful lot about the constitution, but is it written in stone, or can amendments still be made to it?

 

[UKYankieWWFC]

I must admit to not knowing an awful lot about the constitution, but is it written in stone, or can amendments still be made to it?

Likewise Frank. I'm just a legal visitor here to the country. So don't know a whole lot about it either but id imagine the likes of Congress would have to be involved.
But after 200 years of the same old rule I'd imagine not much will ever change

 

[Alan]

But surely it should.

I agree.

 

[Del Woppio]

It can change. But there isn't even close to enough appetite either politically or in public opinion to bother

 

[Parkins left foot]

Nevada death toll up to 58 now

 

[Paul]

I must admit to not knowing an awful lot about the constitution, but is it written in stone, or can amendments still be made to it?

The right to bear arms is an amendment !

 

[Alan]

The right to bear arms is an amendment !

Not exactly.

 

[Johnny75]

Not exactly.

Isn't it the 2nd amendment?

 

[Alan]

Isn't it the 2nd amendment?

Technically yes, but the first ten are what we call the Bill of Rights and it's more appropriate to think of them as set pieces of the Constitution. Amendments 11-27 came later and generally aren't seen as the same level of sacred as 1-10.

 

[Freddeno]

Technically yes, but the first ten are what we call the Bill of Rights and it's more appropriate to think of them as set pieces of the Constitution. Amendments 11-27 came later and generally aren't seen as the same level of sacred as 1-10.

which is the amendment they usually call to have the right to say nothing in court? 13th?

 

[leedswolf]

Fifth.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

5th

The right not to incriminate yourself.

The simple fact is no presidential candidate that pushes gun control will ever get elected. The gun lobby is too powerful.

 

[Tony Towner]

A Republican wouldn't get on the ticket, a Democrat could potentially still get elected advocating some kind of gun control but wouldn't stand a chance of getting it through Congress.

 

[Alan]

Obama tried to push something after Sandy Hook and it failed miserably. That says everything about gun control in this country.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

58 fatalities now. Just horrendous.