The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2017/18

[machin05]

I guess Lambert's sob stories to his journo mates has done the trick.

 

[machin05]

I guess Lambert's sob stories to his journo mates has done the trick.

Especially reading what Coates has said:
"Paul has been successful in management at clubs with a strong and stable background and with local ownership"

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I guess Lambert's sob stories to his journo mates has done the trick.

I can kind of see why he would impress at interview. If he's got a clean slate and he's not directly contradicting something that he himself said mere days ago, he can talk the talk to an extent.

But how do you get past the fact that he's done bugger all since 2012?

 

[machin05]

I can kind of see why he would impress at interview. If he's got a clean slate and he's not directly contradicting something that he himself said mere days ago, he can talk the talk to an extent.

But how do you get past the fact that he's done bugger all since 2012?

Blame the foreign owners, apparently.

 

[Johnny75]

It's the gift that keeps giving,I'll nip back over later for a laugh

It is but just a sobering thought, we once appointed Dean Saunders and Walter Zenga and I imagine reading those threads may well be the same.

 

[Johnny75]

Blame the foreign owners, apparently.

This coming from a man who sold his club to foreign owners before buying it back. Coates is nothing but a figurehead for his daughters company anyway (Bet 365).

 

[Langers]

I don't agree with the level of criticism thrown at Lambert on Twitter - he really wasn't THAT bad for us. Some fucking awful dross, sure (Blackburn last season is a game I shall never forget despite it being so utterly unforgettable - worst game I have ever seen live), but he did have to work with some crap. As we've seen this season, some of that 'crap' can be recycled into fully functioning high quality Championship footballers but still - we had so much deadwood. And whilst he didn't have to shoehorn Edwards into every side and completely fail to get anything out of Saiss, we did see some good stuff such as the Stoke and Liverpool games. And we beat Villa of course. He'd get a 5/10 overall for me.

But that aside, what I fail to understand is how on earth he's managed to land a job in the top flight. I'd understand if Sheffield Wednesday or Forest had appointed him but it makes no sense that Stoke have (except he's their 4th choice and they're running out of time to get someone in during the transfer window).

He's going to have to revert to slogging out low scoring games and shutting up shop whilst enjoying fuck all possession due to Stoke's position in the table. It'll be a relegation battle, but not an exciting one.

 

[lemonjelly]

That forum needs work. 9 posts on a page results in the lambert announcement thread being 260 pages fucking long. Jesus, it'll cause rsi y'know...

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

It is but just a sobering thought, we once appointed Dean Saunders and Walter Zenga and I imagine reading those threads may well be the same.

The Stoke fans reaction to Lambert can't even be remotely close to how I felt when we appointed Saunders!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't agree with the level of criticism thrown at Lambert on Twitter - he really wasn't THAT bad for us. Some fucking awful dross, sure (Blackburn last season is a game I shall never forget despite it being so utterly unforgettable - worst game I have ever seen live), but he did have to work with some crap. As we've seen this season, some of that 'crap' can be recycled into fully functioning high quality Championship footballers but still - we had so much deadwood. And whilst he didn't have to shoehorn Edwards into every side and completely fail to get anything out of Saiss, we did see some good stuff such as the Stoke and Liverpool games. And we beat Villa of course. He'd get a 5/10 overall for me.

But that aside, what I fail to understand is how on earth he's managed to land a job in the top flight. I'd understand if Sheffield Wednesday or Forest had appointed him but it makes no sense that Stoke have (except he's their 4th choice and they're running out of time to get someone in during the transfer window).

He's going to have to revert to slogging out low scoring games and shutting up shop whilst enjoying fuck all possession due to Stoke's position in the table. It'll be a relegation battle, but not an exciting one.

Yes, agreed with all that.

A lot of people keep bringing up the fact that he played Saville at LB - they do realise this is because Doherty was absolutely abysmal at the time (even by his normal standards as an orthodox full back) and we didn't have anyone else save for Borthwick-Jackson, with whom there's clearly some kind of issue as he's done nothing at Leeds? And Saville didn't even let us down particularly in the handful of games he played there - which was either two or three, I forget now.

I had a much bigger problem with him playing Edwards for 90 minutes every single fucking week. Or playing Weimann out wide.

 

[lemonjelly]

Lambert needs to regain some of the mojo he had at norwich & earlier. He lost that when he went to villa, and has never really regained it. To be fair, to some extent he's struggled to get the opportunity - blackburn wasn't long term enough, and with us it was too inconsistent. I still personally think the cup wins hid a much worse league issue and masked how bad we could have been becoming.
He needs a year to start bringing people through and developing a style, rather than crisis management, which is pretty much all he has done for a while.

 

[Trips]

Everton had no need to go for someone who more or less purely deals in grim relegation battles these days. As it is they're now playing that brand of football where you aim for a 0-0 first, hardly having a shot and they're back on a shit run. I think they'll end up getting rid of him at the end of the season, it was a needlessly cautious (and stupidly expensive) appointment.

Their fans already hate him and with good cause.

Did you see his interview with MOTD after the Spurs game? Says they may have to become "more boring" to keep things tight and get results. Didn't think he could make his 'brand of football' even more dull.

 

[Dinowolf]

Ryan Giggs appointed Wales manager.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Did you see his interview with MOTD after the Spurs game? Says they may have to become "more boring" to keep things tight and get results. Didn't think he could make his 'brand of football' even more dull.

I think in three of their last five games they've failed to have a shot on target. They definitely play no football.

 

[Langers]

I bet the Welsh squad can't wait for his first pre-match team talk.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

What team talk? Surely he'll just go with Coleman's tactics of five at the back, hammer it in Bale's direction for 90 minutes?

 

[Langers]

Giggs on Wales job: "I am so proud to have been given the honour of managing the national team. The challenges we have ahead with the Nations League and qualification for Euro 2020 excite me a great deal."

I read that in Giggs' voice and I didn't even get to the end of that quote before I wanted to have a bit of a nap.

 

[Kenny]

Yes, agreed with all that.

A lot of people keep bringing up the fact that he played Saville at LB - they do realise this is because Doherty was absolutely abysmal at the time (even by his normal standards as an orthodox full back) and we didn't have anyone else save for Borthwick-Jackson, with whom there's clearly some kind of issue as he's done nothing at Leeds? And Saville didn't even let us down particularly in the handful of games he played there - which was either two or three, I forget now.

I had a much bigger problem with him playing Edwards for 90 minutes every single fucking week. Or playing Weimann out wide.

I did like the game where he dropped Doc for Saville....and played Saville as a LWB (Rotherham at home?).

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I did like the game where he dropped Doc for Saville....and played Saville as a LWB (Rotherham at home?).

I try not to think of the Rotherham game. But yes, he did (sort of anyway, as we couldn't make our minds up whether we were playing two or three centre halves...which led to Rotherham having two one-on-one chances right down the middle of the park with a 40 yard gap between Williamson and Hause).

 

[Kenny]

I try not to think of the Rotherham game. But yes, he did (sort of anyway, as we couldn't make our minds up whether we were playing two or three centre halves...which led to Rotherham having two one-on-one chances right down the middle of the park with a 40 yard gap between Williamson and Hause).

Saiss in the sweeper role with the obvious instructions of get the ball and then play 80 yards passes out wide. Edwards spent about 20 mins shouting instructions at Saiss to step forward once it was apparent the tactic was shit (Saiss didn't understand/listen though)