The F1 Thread

[Langers]

I watched Senna (again) last night. Amazing film.

That comment from Vettel is appalling.

 

[Nando]

So Seb actually did pass under yellows (they're flashing on his wheel) but this footage wasn't available at the time. Oh well, too late now.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Ferrari are looking to appeal it, it seems.

 

[jlo]

Watching Nando's video is pretty conclusive, Vettel overtook under yellows therefore needs penalising. It's pretty sad though, and Vettel deserves the championship, but rules can't and shouldn't be ignored.

 

[broughtonwolf]

Ferrari are in a hugely awkward position, even if they do not appeal directly, the FIA have to reveiw the evidence and Ferrari stand to have a world champion and the person who loses is out is the driver they are mooted to be signing or have already signed for 2014.

It is clear he passes before the green light, so I don't see if any kind of consistency is applied that a punishment cannot be given. It's not the right way to win or lose the title, but this isn't a technicality, you can't overtake under yellows for safety reasons.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

 

[Law's Bus]

Either way, the FIA gets to look stupid.

* if they do nothing when something would clearly be done if it was the first race, then they're open to accusations of corruption and favouritism

* if they do something and give a penalty to Vettel that takes the championship away, then F1 becomes a laughing stock amongst those who don't understand the rules

 

[The Bear]

Flags overrule all lights so the pass was legal then.

FIA have said it is a legal pass now.

 

[The Bear]

Autosport breakdown of why it was legal:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104645

Flag is the start of the green zone, lights are only supplementary basically.

 

[Nando]

Rumours gathering pace that Ross Brawn is on his way back to Ferrari.

 

[The Bear]

That would be quite a shock if it happened.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

You'd think Lewis agreed to move to Mercedes on the understanding that Brawn would be there. It looks a pretty shit career move as it is!

 

[broughtonwolf]

Pride of Smestow gets the BBC F1 gig - well done Suzi

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20812990

 

[The Bear]

Great choice.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Great choice, but the list of grand prix that aren't available is rather depressing. Going to have to get Sky Sports back at some point I reckon.

 

[Tom Hark]

Great choice, but the list of grand prix that aren't available is rather depressing. Going to have to get Sky Sports back at some point I reckon.

They're all on BBC, just not all live.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I know. Still shit though. At least spa is on the list. My favourite circuit by miles.

 

[The Bear]

What the actual fuck?!!

 

[The Bear]

Just seen this on YouTube. Fantastic!

 

[Wombat del combate]

How to strengthen morale in your own team. And talk utter shite, by Helmut Marko.

Un-fucking-believable.