Summer 2020 Transfer Window (Extended Version)

[prawnking]

I think whatever happens or whatever the club says people just fit it into their preconceived version of what's going on!

 

[big mean bunny]

Interested to see where we go next then. Wonder if we are going to see permanent signings or loans. Leon Clarke currently a free agent too so that's back up striker sorted!

 

[Norman Deeley]

Looking forward to seeing Adama/Neto/Pod running at Doc...

 

[prawnking]

It does seem to suggest that Nuno maybe isn't looking to radically change our playing style and Doc wasn't the first sacrificial lamb, then.

So now the challenge for the club is to get someone in that role who can be at least equally successful.

I wonder if our interest in AMN precedes the Spurs bid for Doc?

 

[Tony Towner]

I think whatever happens or whatever the club says people just fit it into their preconceived version of what's going on!

This is true. On Friday Nuno wanted him out because there was a press quote that said so, today the club have literally said at the start of the window there were no plans to sell him, but that's them being politically nice. There isn't a debate any longer. Matt Doherty has become TWF's Brexit [emoji3]

 

[Langers]

I think whatever happens or whatever the club says people just fit it into their preconceived version of what's going on!

Sigh. Nobody knows what is going on though. I refuse to believe we're not working on bringing in a RWB, although I have absolutely no idea who that might be or how far down the line negotiations are.

It's why I don't get the hyperbole over this. If we DON'T bring in a replacement/improvement (delete as appropriate) then fine - the sale makes very little sense and it weakens us so criticism and questions will be justified but we are simply not at that point yet. Yes, I'll say it again - show a bit of patience.

Anyway, good luck, Matt. Was a pleasure to watch you transform your career here, fair dos for doing so.

 

[big mean bunny]

Potentially, especially if they were looking at him as a flexible player with a long term view on taking over CM. Not the sort of comment I would usually make but would like to see an incoming signing asap, not fussed about rumours or being linked with players but it would be nice to check on here during the week and see a new player thread, regardless of if I have heard of the player or not!

Whilst I fully trust the team and the management for the evidence they have shown with the progress they have made, that doesn't negate my other 30 years of being a Wolves fan and the worst usually happening! So that side of me just needs a tiny bit of a reassuring cuddle...

 

[Tredman]

Statement appears to me that the club received a bid, and after discussing it with the coaching team they decided that we could upgrade in that area and decided he can go. See ya later Matt.

That’s about it. Not much else to say really, though I’m sure others will manage to fill the next 100 pages on it.

 

[Wolvensam]

Sounds like they wanted to upgrade and he wanted to go, so it was ideal for both parties.

 

[prawnking]

Sigh. Nobody knows what is going on though. I refuse to believe we're not working on bringing in a RWB, although I have absolutely no idea who that might be or how far down the line negotiations are.

It's why I don't get the hyperbole over this. If we DON'T bring in a replacement/improvement (delete as appropriate) then fine - the sale makes very little sense and it weakens us so criticism and questions will be justified but we are simply not at that point yet. Yes, I'll say it again - show a bit of patience.

Anyway, good luck, Matt. Was a pleasure to watch you transform your career here, fair dos for doing so.

This is another common stance: no one knows what is going on so let's only say nice things.

I don't think ANYONE on here thinks we aren't working on bringing in a RWB! The discussion lies around other areas

This obsession with only talking about things when they're fully complete is just such a smokescreen... Does that mean we scrap match day threads and just close TWF till after the final day of the season, where we can actually analyse, praise, critique to our hearts content?

Why do we have to wait till the transfer window has closed until we can talk about transfers?? Cos some people are terrified of the club being criticised for some weird reason...

And even when things are over, and 'patience' has been exhausted, like with last summer's transfer window, the reality of it gets rewritten.

Stuff patience, can we just discuss things as they are unfolding, even with the limited info available, and our own instincts and judgements and personalities??

Otherwise what is the point of this place?

 

[Nando]

Sparked by a poor use of the word equivalent. I am very concerned at the gap in quality between our starting 11 and our back ups. Apart from wingers our back up is quite a bit poorer . I do not think that is the same in any other club bar Sheffield United , newly promoted teams excluded. I fear it’s another season of the sky six winning everything , buying everyone of note and the gap between them and the rest growing.

What doesn’t help my frustration is us saying we need to strengthen our depth quality (Nuno said that after we lost to Seville) and promptly letting two members of that already thin squad go. One a regular starter and one on the fringe.

Now I would happily have taken upgrades on both and have said as much but it’s highly unlikely AML is coming here. We are still several players short and the season is two weeks away.

I don't disagree with anything you've said there, Cyber.

We clearly need improvements to the XI now and the wider squad - hopefully the first part sorts the second there. My criticism was with the perceived expectation that we build a squad of 18 players with no drop in quality, it just isn't realistic.

 

[prawnking]

Sounds like they wanted to upgrade and he wanted to go, so it was ideal for both parties.

Nice try but no.

Jeff literally said they hadn't planned it, then the offer came in.

So the desire to upgrade wasn't the motivator, the offer came in, Doc wanted to go, Jeff and Co decided in clubs best interests to let it happen (which could just as easily mean they were worried about morale, rather than they thought he was crap and wanted to upgrade )

 

[Carrotdude]

It’s going to be so bloody strange seeing him play for Spurs.

 

[NoodleWolf]

It is going to feel pretty weird seeing Doc line-up for Spurs. He's been around forever! For all his flaws and shite years, I still respect his transformation and his contributions over the last 3 seasons, and wish him all the best! Hope he does well, but not too well. Matt Doherty in a Sky 6 team, who'da thunk it.

 

[PuntsWolf]

This is another common stance: no one knows what is going on so let's only say nice things.

I don't think ANYONE on here thinks we aren't working on bringing in a RWB! The discussion lies around other areas

This obsession with only talking about things when they're fully complete is just such a smokescreen... Does that mean we scrap match day threads and just close TWF till after the final day of the season, where we can actually analyse, praise, critique to our hearts content?

Why do we have to wait till the transfer window has closed until we can talk about transfers?? Cos some people are terrified of the club being criticised for some weird reason...

And even when things are over, and 'patience' has been exhausted, like with last summer's transfer window, the reality of it gets rewritten.

Stuff patience, can we just discuss things as they are unfolding, even with the limited info available, and our own instincts and judgements and personalities??

Otherwise what is the point of this place?

Stop talking so much sense.

 

[Boozad]

Nice try but no.

Jeff literally said they hadn't planned it, then the offer came in.

So the desire to upgrade wasn't the motivator, the offer came in, Doc wanted to go, Jeff and Co decided in clubs best interests to let it happen (which could just as easily mean they were worried about morale, rather than they thought he was crap and wanted to upgrade )

And you know that the club don’t have a replacement lined up and intended to keep Doherty as backup but then thought the £15m would be of more use how?

 

[MobNet Wolf]

Nice try but no.

Jeff literally said they hadn't planned it, then the offer came in.

So the desire to upgrade wasn't the motivator, the offer came in, Doc wanted to go, Jeff and Co decided in clubs best interests to let it happen (which could just as easily mean they were worried about morale, rather than they thought he was crap and wanted to upgrade )

The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Identifying it as an area to upgrade doesn’t mean we had expected to sell Doc. However when you get an offer on a player you were looking to upgrade anyway, it makes it easier to accept that offer. That’s where I expect we’re at.

 

[Wolvensam]

Nice try but no.

Jeff literally said they hadn't planned it, then the offer came in.

So the desire to upgrade wasn't the motivator, the offer came in, Doc wanted to go, Jeff and Co decided in clubs best interests to let it happen (which could just as easily mean they were worried about morale, rather than they thought he was crap and wanted to upgrade )

If it wasn't a position they were looking to upgrade I would be very shocked. Regardless, time for Vinagre to shine.

 

[prawnking]

And you know that the club don’t have a replacement lined up and intended to keep Doherty as backup but then thought the £15m would be of more use how?

No, I don't know that. Could well be true, but you're really only saying it cos the possibility of it fits your pov. Which is fine. I hope you're right.

I was just trying to correct Wolvensam's sneaky little bit of chronology switching, that's all

 

[prawnking]

If it wasn't a position they were looking to upgrade I would be very shocked. Regardless, time for Vinagre to shine.

He's playing right AND left wing back now???