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[pr0sl0]

There is a difference between blaming foreigners because they're foreigners and describing someone as foreign though, if that makes sense. The new players are for the most part foreign so Batth described them as foreigners, if this is true. Perhaps it would have been better to have said "the new players" but still, it's not Batth saying "they're giving up because they're foreign."

No, I get what you're saying, and it's a fair distinction. It's just that those aren't contradictory things. Yeah, the players he's talking about might be the new, non-British ones - but by talking about them as "foreigners" specifically, as their primary attribute, it's also xenophobic, because even if the intent isn't "they're giving up because they're foreign", that's what that phrasing actually means. (Intent is not magic, as they say.)

It's not world-shatteringly awful, it's pretty mild in the grand scheme of things, but it - as I said - is *literally* is a xenophobic statement.

(Of course this is all based on a third- or fourth-hand rumour, so I'm not going to give it too much weight regardless.)

 

[Parkins left foot]

The foreigners haven't been the problem so far

The only players that have performed to a reasonable level (from the games I have seen) have been Bodvarrsen (apart from leeds) Costa & Saiss

Doubt that any of those were born in the UK

 

[Hamlet]

No, I get what you're saying, and it's a fair distinction. It's just that those aren't contradictory things. Yeah, the players he's talking about might be the new, non-British ones - but by talking about them as "foreigners" specifically, as their primary attribute, it's also xenophobic, because even if the intent isn't "they're giving up because they're foreign", that's what that phrasing actually means. (Intent is not magic, as they say.)

It's not world-shatteringly awful, it's pretty mild in the grand scheme of things, but it - as I said - is *literally* is a xenophobic statement.

(Of course this is all based on a third- or fourth-hand rumour, so I'm not going to give it too much weight regardless.)

That's fair, I can understand that!

 

[prerecordedlive]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room. I think it would confirm a lot of suspicions about the old guard, who I think is the main problem. Bunch of lazy, apathetic fucks. And it may be a "grass is greener" situation but I think Zenga froze out the wrong guys from the Jackett era.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

As much as I liked Walt and his commentaries, if this is the state the dressing room is in, in such a short time, no surprise at Fosun's rapid reaction.
Personally at such an early stage of his tenure, and based on the results we are producing i think Walt's trips to Dubai, sound a little of " too much too often" and would certainly have pissed me off.

Imagine Jeff getting a ruck of worried questions from china and not being able to find his new, not yet successful manager, to talk things through.

At this stage Walt should have had a camp bed at Compton.

 

[Tony Towner]

If Penk's info is accurate, I doubt he'd claim it to be a direct word for word quotation, if he said "that lot over there" pointing in a general direction for instance instead of foreigners, then you've got the kind of blow up that happens in dressing rooms all the time and I'm happy for the captain to call it out. That said I can't say it's obvious to me from the games I've seen - which didn't include Barnsley or Leeds though.

I and others made the point when we were taken over that one of the dangers in bringing in so many players was that there would be factions in the squad and a them and us attitude. The response on here typically was 'fuck 'em', but we needed the old guard and will continue to do so for another couple of transfer widows at least. You can argue the merits of each but, Ikeme, Doherty, Iorfa, Batth, Hause, Edwards, Coady, Dicko and Stearman are all still in the 18 most weeks.

The Mendes players will have been 'encouraged' to come here, let's face it it's not the career move any of them would have been looking for. If it was going well that wouldn't have been a problem, but as it isn't tensions are maybe beginning to surface even if Batth's alleged observations are incorrect or unfair. We've not even reached the cliched time of the season when those with concerns thought they might struggle yet.

 

[Siggy]

So according to the E and S we want a British manager. Can't say I'm upset about that, first things first we have to get out of this division then worry about competing in the Prem. I think Pearson took a poisoned chalice at Derby so judging on Leicester I think he is a reasonable shout. I know most are against big Sam but he would sort out defence out and we should be able to compete relatively quickly. There is so much corruption in football if that is a benchmark for our new manager we may struggle.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport...s-search-wolves-look-for-the-best-of-british/

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[Sniffer]

If Penk's info is accurate, I doubt he'd claim it to be a direct word for word quotation, if he said "that lot over there" pointing in a general direction for instance instead of foreigners, then you've got the kind of blow up that happens in dressing rooms all the time and I'm happy for the captain to call it out.

That's my interpretation of the information that has been received through the source.

 

[Templeton Peck]

So if the E and S are right it pretty much leaves us with this lot:

Roy Keane
Billy Davies
Tony Mowbray
Alex McLeish
Ian Holloway
Paul Lambert
Brian McDermott
Sam Allardyce
Nigel Pearson

Or we'll be aiming to 'poach' one of these...
Alex Neil
Sean Dyche
Brendan Rodgers
Chris Hughton
Neil Warnock
Aidy Boothroyd

Hmmm.

 

[So Long Architect]

That E&S article is hardly brimming with direct quotes, is it? Just speculation as far as I can see.

 

[Norman Deeley]

So if the E and S are right it pretty much leaves us with this lot:

Roy Keane
Billy Davies
Tony Mowbray
Alex McLeish
Ian Holloway
Paul Lambert
Brian McDermott
Sam Allardyce
Nigel Pearson

Or we'll be aiming to 'poach' one of these...
Alex Neil
Sean Dyche
Brendan Rodgers
Chris Hughton
Neil Warnock
Aidy Boothroyd

Hmmm.

Could we add Rowett and Warburton to the list before we all phone the Samaritans?

 

[Lycan]

I really don't want us to get a British manager, very few of them appeal to me.

 

[Lycan]

Could we add Rowett and Warburton to the list before we all phone the Samaritans?

Warburton is an idiot.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I really don't want us to get a British manager, very few of them appeal to me.

Personally, I don't think the manager is the issue. Same with Solbakken era, it was the recruiting players that couldn't cope with the Championship that was the issue.

 

[Siggy]

Agree with Penk re players the Championship is quite a beast and we need players that can cope now rather than next season or not at all. The manager needs to have an input on that process so shorter term British makes sense IMO.

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[Deutsch Wolf]

https://danwolves.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/arrivederci-walter/

I didn't want to publish anything immediately after he went in case there were further developments in bringing a replacement in, but there haven't been so here you go.

 

[Kenny]

Here are 2 things to get Doosch all on edge...

1) Picture of POTY Mark Rankine
2) Small parts of a Paul Ince interview in the E&S about wanting the Wolves job

 

[Penk Wolf]

He's bigger in that picture than in real life.

 

[pr0sl0]

I really can't think who's out there - currently employed, if the rumours are to be believed - who would want to come here, or who we'd think was the right choice in terms of experience of the Championship or British football in general.

If Moyes gets sacked, maybe?

 

[nimrod]

So if the E and S are right it pretty much leaves us with this lot:

Roy Keane
Billy Davies
Tony Mowbray
Alex McLeish
Ian Holloway
Paul Lambert
Brian McDermott
Sam Allardyce
Nigel Pearson

Or we'll be aiming to 'poach' one of these...
Alex Neil
Sean Dyche
Brendan Rodgers
Chris Hughton
Neil Warnock
Aidy Boothroyd

Hmmm.

fucking hell. add incey to that list and i start to think big Sam may not be so bad, though i'll be saying a few hail marys later as a penance for thinking it.