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Next Manager chat.

Is it heck. Don't think it's a serious as Alan makes out though, however, if we have an issue with heart and endeavour then the captain is partly to blame anyway.
 
You don't have to look for race/xenophobia into every little comment. You're really looking for something that isn't there.
It's blatantly obvious!

We've been down this road. If the rumor is true, I don't want Batth playing for us and you won't change my mind about it. End of.
 
I should note though that if it's true and he apologizes for it, then I'm all for second chances.
 
If it is true then Batth obviously cares and had gone up in my estimation. His performances still have him down as a bang average footballer in my book though. Prove me wrong Danny.
 
Bloody hell. This thread.

Frank - your wit is needed again because this thread has gone full blown batshit mental.
 
If it is true then Batth obviously cares and had gone up in my estimation. His performances still have him down as a bang average footballer in my book though. Prove me wrong Danny.
You can be fired up and question a manager for congratulating a losing effort without singling out such a specific subset of players.
 
It's blatantly obvious!

We've been down this road. If the rumor is true, I don't want Batth playing for us and you won't change my mind about it. End of.

It really isn't that obvious. You have made a snap judgement based on scant information that even if true was said in the heat of a post match defeat. The fact that a story came out that "the players" we're behind Zenga should have rung some warning bells that all was not healthy.

Regardless of any assessment of his ability, DB is an excellent professional who has worked hard for the club - maybe his assessment is to do with a lack of application and dedication from some players is accurate. To be honest, I would prefer those players, if they exist, never wore the shirt again before DB.

Or, I would like a manager capable of getting the best out of the squad, something Zenga clearly couldn't.
 
It really isn't that obvious. You have made a snap judgement based on scant information that even if true was said in the heat of a post match defeat. The fact that a story came out that "the players" we're behind Zenga should have rung some warning bells that all was not healthy.

Regardless of any assessment of his ability, DB is an excellent professional who has worked hard for the club - maybe his assessment is to do with a lack of application and dedication from some players is accurate. To be honest, I would prefer those players, if they exist, never wore the shirt again before DB.

Or, I would like a manager capable of getting the best out of the squad, something Zenga clearly couldn't.

Exactly right.
 
This is all getting very surreal

Danny is not so good that he is not superfluous for the rest of the season - there are others we have who can cock things up just as well

Whilst I thought that Fosun had a replacement in line to come in the next day, clearly this is not the case, but they have acted to stop the rot before it infects too much of the building.

Don't have a problem with Rob Edwards & Sellars taking the reins for the next couple of matches - need to get the next appointment right though
 
It really isn't that obvious. You have made a snap judgement based on scant information that even if true was said in the heat of a post match defeat. The fact that a story came out that "the players" we're behind Zenga should have rung some warning bells that all was not healthy.

Regardless of any assessment of his ability, DB is an excellent professional who has worked hard for the club - maybe his assessment is to do with a lack of application and dedication from some players is accurate. To be honest, I would prefer those players, if they exist, never wore the shirt again before DB.

Or, I would like a manager capable of getting the best out of the squad, something Zenga clearly couldn't.

If it's not true then obviously I've nothing to be upset about.

If it is true then the "heat of the moment" argument holds absolutely no water for me. You wouldn't excuse someone dropping the N word in the middle of a match, and nor should xenophobic behavior be tolerated after a loss.

The quote, as stated here, if true, is absolutely unacceptable.
 
You don't have to look for race/xenophobia into every little comment. You're really looking for something that isn't there.

...blaming "foreigners" for your problems is literally what xenophobia is, though. Like, the dictionary definition.
 
Context needed noone knows if 1) it's true and 2)the wording. Danny is mixed race himself and I don't believe for one minute racist. It may well be to do with the "new" players or players on loan not caring as much. You can use the word foreigner and not be racist you know.

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Zenga Sacked.

Zenga flew back here Tuesday was sacked and then flew back to Dubai.
Didn't Walter tag himself at Fiume Restaurant in today's Instagram post?

Batth is still following him on there as well I see.
 
Context needed noone knows if 1) it's true and 2)the wording. Danny is mixed race himself and I don't believe for one minute racist. It may well be to do with the "new" players or players on loan not caring as much. You can use the word foreigner and not be racist you know.

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It is exactly to do with the new players not caring, it just happens they are all foreign.

Anyway, I'm off to bed this conversation is winding me up.
 
Only passing on what I'm being told. Reliable sources, but can't guarantee it's true, but apparently we are trying to poach managers who are already employed.

So assuming this is true who are the potential targets ?
 
...blaming "foreigners" for your problems is literally what xenophobia is, though. Like, the dictionary definition.

There is a difference between blaming foreigners because they're foreigners and describing a group of people as foreign though, if that makes sense. The new players are for the most part foreign so Batth described them as foreigners, if this is true. Perhaps it would have been better to have said "the new players" but still, it's not Batth saying "they're giving up because they're foreign."
 
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