Wolves 0-3 Nottingham Forest: Verdict Thread

[ROVERT47]

I agree totally but we need to move on from Nuno (hurts just to type it) and back Pereira to the hilt to get us out of the shit.
Personally I think we need at least one more CB (as well as Agbadou), a CM to help Gomes and Andre, a wide forward.
It would nice to get better squad options than Guedes, Hwang, Doyle, Bellegarde and Forbs. Doubt we'll get all that in January though.

Yeah I know, hope he goes on to be as successful..

 

[AndyWolves]

The Forest fans singing, "Nuno, Nuno, give us a wave", hurt and his response more so.
He should have become one of our longest serving Managers.

I don't think the sacking of Nuno was the wrong thing necessarily at the time (we were poor and Nuno needed some time away), it was the appointment of his replacement which made it look like a terrible decision.

 

[Lupo]

The Forest fans singing, "Nuno, Nuno, give us a wave", hurt and his response more so.
He should have become one of our longest serving Managers.

Was that definitely the Forest fans? I thought it came from the South Bank and he seemed to wave towards the SB rather than the Forest fans though I only have one functioning ear and struggle to know where sounds come from at the best of times.

 

[ROVERT47]

Definitely Forest fans.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Nuno had two 7th placed finishes prior to a bad season with no forward and no crowd. Did those who wanted him gone really believe we were going to get better? Utter nonsense then and nothing has changed with the passage of time.

 

[Lupo]

Definitely Forest fans.

Cocky bastards they are with some of their songs, can't blame them I guess but they were cocky when they were shit, even worse now!

 

[AndyWolves]

Nuno had two 7th placed finishes prior to a bad season with no forward and no crowd. Did those who wanted him gone really believe we were going to get better? Utter nonsense then and nothing has changed with the passage of time.

Nuno was broken at the time, I don't think he would have got any better without some time away.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I think Nuno probably needed a change when he left but getting rid of him was definitely a mistake on our part.

We should have lured him back from Saudi after Lage was sacked but whether he and Shi would have worked together again who knows. Fuck Jeff Shi man, he fluked his way to being a Chairman of a Top 7 PL club then fucked it all up.

If you look back at the Nuno to leave Wolves thread you will probably see that pretty much nobody on here wanted him to leave.

 

[Lupo]

Personally I've never been so upset about a manager going as Nuno. In fact he was the only one, all other Wolves managers either shouldn't have been here in the first place or stayed past their sell by date. I loved Big Mick but he was here too long (not his fault) but Nuno? I was one of the 4K in the pouring rain against Man United at the first game after Covid kept us out and was his farewell. After all the great times its so sad that his final season was without fans and his final game was in such circumstances

 

[The Saturday Boy]

First half I thought we were functional at best, and wasteful with the chances presented. Hwang and Guedes left JSL isolated and the amount of really good crosses that flashed across the box with neither Hwang or Guedes anywhere in sight was really disappointing. One particularly good example was Lima hitting a beautiful cross which ended up going out for a throw in on the other flank with only JSL in the box, Guedes nowhere and both R Gomes and Hwang barely past the half way line and making no effort to get forward.

Doyle is not and never will be a Premier League level player. Technically he is fine but just does not have enough in his game to make a lasting impression. When you consider how dominant we were in terms of the amount of possession, he did almost nothing of note.

Forest are a typical Nuno side, not particularly great on the eye but solid throughout and break with real purpose. I would swap their 3 defenders for ours all day every day. They were waiting for us to commit players forward and were clinical when they had the opportunities. We were not so clinical.

Second half, they managed the game exceptionally well and with every substitution we drifted further out of the game.

Doherty, Bueno, Doyle, Hwang, Lemina, Sarabia. Guedes - none are at the level required and that is not going to be fixed in January.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I don't think the sacking of Nuno was the wrong thing necessarily at the time (we were poor and Nuno needed some time away), it was the appointment of his replacement which made it look like a terrible decision.

Struggling to remember, but who was available at the time and would have been a good appointment?

(Of course Lage was a bad appointment, I'm not suggesting otherwise, just trying to remember the expectation of the time?)

 

[SSB]

Agree he deserves our thanks. I stuck around after the whistle to clap him off as I guess that’s the last time we’ll see him at Molineux. Not many left in the ground - pretty poor show from the fans TBH, wasn’t even that cold.

I very rarely leave games early, but had a three and half hour drive after the game, so I'll forgive myself for not waiting behind to clap Lemina.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

29,940 there last night.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Struggling to remember, but who was available at the time and would have been a good appointment?

(Of course Lage was a bad appointment, I'm not suggesting otherwise, just trying to remember the expectation of the time?)

I wanted us to be looking at the likes of Amorim, Fonseca or Rose. No reason why we couldn't have and I'm pretty sure Fonseca didn't even have a job at the time.

Instead we picked some clueless coneboy cunt who I wouldn't have in charge of Telford.

 

[Carrotdude]

Played well first half and absolutely had to score one of those chances. No idea why O’Neil ignored Rodrigo Gomes all season as he looks great and I like the look of Lima too. Let down a lot by Hwang and Guedes being awful so added to no Cunha, no Andre and 1 (terrible) centre back fit it was never going to end well.

 

[Mel Evo]

I very rarely leave games early, but had a three and half hour drive after the game, so I'll forgive myself for not waiting behind to clap Lemina.

I completely understand! TBH the biggest incentive was to give the floods a few more minutes to drop before I got home!!

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

ok head on the block for sure, but i don't think santi was all that bad yesterday. Considering the physical differences he handled wood quite well.
His biggest problem was having to continually cover for Ran, who i would personally sell tommorrow, and not quite so much, but still needed, Doc, who compared to previous weeks, was pretty shit yesterday.
Loved the kids, and the subs can all fuck off.
Ok that said, i don't feel anywhere near as crap after this loss, as all the others.

 

[sycophantia]

ok head on the block for sure, but i don't think santi was all that bad yesterday. Considering the physical differences he handled wood quite well.
His biggest problem was having to continually cover for Ran, who i would personally sell tommorrow, and not quite so much, but still needed, Doc, who compared to previous weeks, was pretty shit yesterday.
Loved the kids, and the subs can all fuck off.
Ok that said, i don't feel anywhere near as crap after this loss, as all the others.

I think Santi is just about adequate as long as there is a decent, dominant CB next to him. Preferably I'd like him as back up.
Thought RAN was OK as he's never a CB, ended up trying to get forward to create something as we'd run out of ideas and steam second half.

 

[SSB]

Really did enjoy a trip to the Western and bumping into some fine Forum-ites (and an ex-forumite...!)

Sounds the best part of the night! I do like a pre-match 3 or 4 Bathams in the Western, but rarely get the change these days.

 

[1986]

Just one thing.......

A lot of us here - myself included - were quite critical of both Lage and O ' Neil when both Managers were openly critical of our own players , in some cases mentioning the player as well . Throwing players under a bus is a no no for me when speaking to the media .
Speak to them individually and collectively at training sessions and deal with the matter there . Dropping a play to the bench for a period will do the talking for you .

On Monday evening , did Pereira not criticise Tommy Doyle quite openly - saying that he went ' missing ' ? Not sure if he was referring to the first goal or just the match in general .