Man Utd 1 v 1 Wolves: The Verdict Thread

[Premier Quality]

I’ve been really critical of Helder Costa this season, I think he’s been playing within himself, but he was excellent yesterday - I actually think Luke Shaw had a really good game too, but Helder went past him numerous times, was stronger and most importantly showed real ambition.

Long may it continue.

 

[SSB]

What a day out at the "half n' half scarf" stadium. Fancy having to go there every fortnight, what a soulless place.

We've come a long way when you leave Manchester Utd disappointed you didn't win.

 

[James]

Fucking hell they’re such a bunch of cunts.

Must have been a sour trip back down to London for them

 

[Jinky]

Just rewatching the full match. At the end of the season you look back at ‘moments’ - and that save from Patricio right on half time to keep it at 1-0 - that kept us in the game and allowed us to go on and take a point away from that match. Genuinely a world class save. I wonder how many points Patrício will be responsible for us gaining come the end of the season?

On a totally separate note - I really like Keith Andrews on co-commentary. Very fair and knows his stuff.

 

[VanWolfie]

Just rewatching the full match. At the end of the season you look back at ‘moments’ - and that save from Patricio right on half time to keep it at 1-0 - that kept us in the game and allowed us to go on and take a point away from that match. Genuinely a world class save. I wonder how many points Patrício will be responsible for us gaining come the end of the season?.

I couldn't agree more. Patricio's save just before half time was crucial to Wolves sharing the points. He saved us three points at West Ham and one point against Man City. He is a superb signing who, with the other team members, will ensure a top ten finish for Wolves this season.

 

[Johnny75]

I couldn't agree more. Patricio's save just before half time was crucial to Wolves sharing the points. He saved us three points at West Ham and one point against Man City. He is a superb signing who, with the other team members, will ensure a top ten finish for Wolves this season.

You could argue De Gea did the same for Utd.

 

[AndyWolves]

De Gea in Garth Crooks TOTW along with Jota

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

It was even more impressive given that Shaw shoved him over as he passed it.

he would not have got it, but that shove was a stonewall Pen

 

[Pablowolf]

Jota in the team of the week but Britney awards him 7/10. They should settle this with fists.

 

[Sniffer]

Mr Crooks was watching the Wolves game as there was a comment from him on the BBC live text......

 

[Johnny75]

Jota in the team of the week but Britney awards him 7/10. They should settle this with fists.

On the 'stealing a living' scale I think Garth beats Britney by a Dave Edwards 11 out of 10.

 

[Kenny]

Racist...

 

[Johnny75]

Racist...

Harsh......... I love people from Wombourne, I even have 1 as a friend.

 

[VanWolfie]

You could argue De Gea did the same for Utd.

Indeed! Without De Gea, United would have been two down early on, a position from which I would argue they could not have recovered. De Gea has been the main reason why Man U have as many points as they have. Without his performances, they would be a mid-table team and Jose M. would be gone.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's a mark of how awful United have been post-Fergie that de Gea has won four of their five Player of the Year awards since 2013/14 (Herrera inexplicably won the other one, that must have been their "Stearman/Rankine" moment).

Neither Schmeichel nor van der Sar ever won one.

 

[Jinky]

Indeed! Without De Gea, United would have been two down early on, a position from which I would argue they could not have recovered. De Gea has been the main reason why Man U have as many points as they have. Without his performances, they would be a mid-table team and Jose M. would be gone.

I don't think you can use that logic, really. You can't say "without X they would have been X down" every time a keeper has a save to make - that's what they're employed to do! My initial point was that Patricio had no right to save that free kick from Fred, really. It was (what I would consider) a worldly save - where as you'd expect most PL keepers to make the save's De Gea made at the start of the match (especially the one from Raul which was straight at him). The save from Boly's header was certainly the more impressive of the two, but neither were anywhere near the level of the Patricio one. Plus going 2-0 down away at Old Trafford right on half time is a different kettle of fish compared to United going 1-0 down in the first 10 minutes (you'd still expect them to get back in to a game from there). The timing/quality of the Patricio save puts it a level above anything De Gea did, IMO.

That's not to say I disagree with anyone suggesting De Gea was one of United's better players (if not their best), though :icon_lol:

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Pogba (although our goal was to a large extent his fault), de Gea, Smalling and Shaw were the only acceptable performers for United on the day. Lindelöf is weak, Valencia looks finished and was appalling on the ball, Fred was crap apart from the goal (Dave Fredwards all over), Fellaini has always been a joke at a club like that, Lingard did very little although did at least try, Alexis has looked like a parks player ever since he went there and Lukaku had zero impact, just didn't seem to want it enough.

 

[Jinky]

Wasn't Raul a teammate of Lindelöf at Benfica? I got the impression that Raul knew he could bully and force mistakes from him with a little pressure. It came across like he knew Lindelöf's game quite well.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, they would have played together. We really targeted that channel in the first half in particular.

Shaw did very well considering he had Lindelöf next to him and no protection in front as Pogba only runs in one direction. Got the yellow but it didn't affect him too much. Got beaten a couple of times but that will happen with our widemen. Good to see him in form.

 

[Johnny75]

I thought Costa gave Shaw a torrid time and both players looked top class all game. Only thing Costa needs to add and that's goals. Jota still looks short of his good form but he's getting there and when those two click into gear in a few games time I think we will smash somebody (Palace or Watford) like we did Burnley only take more chances.