England World Cup Squad

[Nando]

Frustrating. Not overly convinced he suits a central pairing, but we're so light in quality in that area of the pitch he'd have been a starter.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He would definitely have been in the eleven. Down to Southgate to make a decision on a replacement.

 

[White Wolf]

He would definitely have been in the eleven. Down to Southgate to make a decision on a replacement.

He was ringing Livermore the moment the tackle was made...

 

[AndyWolves]

Anyone agree with this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43913489

I'd say no, you don't need the ghosts of tournament failures in the past hanging around

 

[Johnny75]

I don't know Joe Hart but if he's a good influence around the squad then yes it could be a good thing. Wouldn't work with outfield players as they should all be pushing for places but with 3 'keepers that's unlikely.

 

[BillyDee]

If he's a good influence around the squad, then take him but in a coaching role. Shades of Sven taking Theo "for the experience " in 2006 then running out of fit strikers and not playing him. Everyone in the squad should be there on merit and be expected to play.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Now here is a dilemma. I have been thinking about the England goalkeeping spot. One of the things I always struggled with is three keepers in the squad. So I think the third keeper should be a specialist in saving penalties. We have a shocking record in shootouts and you can bet a penny to a quid that it could happen again. So I would pick the goalkeper with the best penalty saving ratio for the third spot. That is either Joe Hart with 5 saves from 19 faced or Tom Heaton with 3 saves from 10.Given that Heaton has only just regained fitness it makes sense to have Hart as the penalty specialist and publicise thats why he got the position. He is expereinced but he gets number three because of his penalty record.

Imagine at 119 minutes against Portugal in the quater finals with the game at 1-1 and Southgate subsituting Butland for the "Penalty specialist". Half of saving penalties is luck and there is a fair bit of psycholgy in it too. Anthing that could get in the mind of the opposition. So its Butland, number 1, Hart number three . I prefer Pope to Pickford but can see why Pickford would get the nod as number 2
Views? Worth a shot? Whats there to lose?

 

[Kenny]

That late sub falls down if the ball doesn't go out or the game isn't stopped though. We wanted to bring Miranda on at Man City as he is decent at them and took a few for Rio Ave. He was ready to come on after 117 mins but the game carried on until FT and he couldn't take part in the shoot out.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

That late sub falls down if the ball doesn't go out or the game isn't stopped though. We wanted to bring Miranda on at Man City as he is decent at them and took a few for Rio Ave. He was ready to come on after 117 mins but the game carried on until FT and he couldn't take part in the shoot out.

yes there is that issue.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

What if you've already used your subs?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Hart's been in a shootout for England at Euro 2012 in the quarter finals. We lost.

I'm not taking the cackhanded bastard on the basis that he sometimes saves penalties at possibly a greater rate from a small sample size over someone else. He's been bloody awful this season. Not that I think it matters who the third choice keeper is, they'll never play, I just don't want Southgate to be tempted to play him.

 

[BillyDee]

I would suggest we put more emphasis on training to score penalties, than holding back a sub keeper.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Good point Billy. Who would our five be?

Kane (nailed on)
Vardy (???? He's got to be on the pitch first)
Alli (doesn't take them for Spurs)
Rashford (no idea, again might not be on the park)
Dier (I suppose, hits a decent ball)

 

[machin05]

Good point Billy. Who would our five be?

Kane (nailed on)
Vardy (???? He's got to be on the pitch first)
Alli (doesn't take them for Spurs)
Rashford (no idea, again might not be on the park)
Dier (I suppose, hits a decent ball)

Coady.

 

[Tredman]

Alli, Rashford and Dier all look prone to bottling a penalty. Two of them play for spurs who could bottle a sunday league game.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Hart's been in a shootout for England at Euro 2012 in the quarter finals. We lost.

I'm not taking the cackhanded bastard on the basis that he sometimes saves penalties at possibly a greater rate from a small sample size over someone else. He's been bloody awful this season. Not that I think it matters who the third choice keeper is, they'll never play, I just don't want Southgate to be tempted to play him.

Yep I get all that. But taking Hart as a penalty specialist could give a psychological advantage. Therefore it's worth it imho

 

[Deleted Cyber]

What if you've already used your subs?

You're fucked so don't do it lol

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I would suggest we put more emphasis on training to score penalties, than holding back a sub keeper.

Bollocks. Get in the minds of the opposition.

 

[t3ch]

Yep I get all that. But taking Hart as a penalty specialist could give a psychological advantage. Therefore it's worth it imho

I think you're reaching here.

 

[The Bear]

Reaching = tripping