Coronavirus

[Rui_CostCo]

I tend to disagree and work on the adage that all input to life and circumstance and therefore all output too is Bio - psycho - social. As such Toby Young and his views are extremely relevant to the well being of folk in this pandemic. One size does not fit all.
That I feel is rather arrogant of you. You are setting yourself up as judge and jury and no more qualified than the rest of us to dictate the terms of debate. The 5G debate is rather complex but I would not censor people for detracting for fear some utter moron may set fire to a mast.
Agreed - this goes back to my first point.
Touche.
The EVIDENCE suggests the common denominator in the vast majority of all deaths regardless of ethnicity is age and co-morbidity.

As I said, in the interest of clarity and transparency and for ease of mine and others understanding before replying. it would be good if you could indicate what information your basing your opinions on and who the information comes from. It's something I've always done in this thread, I don't think it outrageous to ask for that to be reciprocated? Again, I'm mot being aggy, I'm trying to avoid that happening in the future due to assurances I have given others. no idea where my thumbs up icon went lol

 

[Papper]

One example of an opinion I'd trust on the economic impact of lock-down, which, a lot of people are expressing an opinion on without also saying why they believe it to be true. It's a subject widely discussed in the media with certain sections stating it is an absolute fact that the economy will be irreparably wrecked if it isn't lifted now and as a result being widely propagated online

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A viewpoint I would not necessarily disagree with because the way we consume may change not necessarily the amount of money put into the economy. Online replaces High Street, delivery replaces restaurant. Philip Green doesn't give a shit about staff in his shops as long as the online sales prosper. There will be winners and losers. Technology improves the economy, robots increase productivity and therefore profits but that doesn't exactly help those who are surplus to requirements ie people. The impact is socio-economic and there is also a psychological element.

 

[Papper]

As I said, in the interest of clarity and transparency and for ease of mine and others understanding before replying. it would be good if you could indicate what information your basing your opinions on and who the information comes from. It's something I've always done in this thread, I don't think it outrageous to ask for that to be reciprocated? Again, I'm mot being aggy, I'm trying to avoid that happening in the future due to assurances I have given others. no idea where my thumbs up icon went lol

Seriously? You want me to cite evidence that the vast majority of deaths from the virus (in fact any virus) are centred on age and comorbidity ?

 

[Johnny75]

It's not just Icke but let's be brutally honest he is far from the last word on everything. Freedom of speech and censorship are the thrust of what I am saying. There is a moot point that some may not have the capacity/intellect to even begin to decipher a balanced argument sensibly - the types who burn masts. I tend to question the fuck out of everything because I do not trust the official line on anything.

There is no debate.

Radio waves cannot cause Coronavirus.

 

[The Bear]

Exactly. Non-ionising radiation has been around for years, studied a lot, and has been exposed to the human population for decades. It causes no health issues whatsoever that anyone has found.

 

[Tony Towner]

Eamonn Holmes joined the club yesterday on This Morning, by saying anyone with an enquiring mind shouldn't just dismiss it. Pretty bloody irresponsible on live tv with an impressionable audience

 

[Papper]

There is no debate.

Radio waves cannot cause Coronavirus.

I agree but you have the freedom to call it out as complete bollocks. As I said it is complex but I'm not entirely sure the detractors are saying 5G directly causes Coronavirus but we will never know if these people are censored.

 

[Premier Quality]

Hopefully unwilling to suggest Hitler was a PR move from greatness perhaps?

That’s just a book review?

And doesn’t answer the question.

So genuinely - if the telegraph is extreme far right, where do the mail and express come in?

 

[Tony Towner]

This debunks the only people dying are those who would anyway narrative

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Seriously? You want me to cite evidence that the vast majority of deaths from the virus (in fact any virus) are centred on age and comorbidity ?

If you think that because you've analysed the stats yourself and that's the conclusion you've come to , fine, If it's just a hunch you have, fine, if you've come to that conclusion after reading a Toby Young column where he's said that's the case, that's fine also. I've been questioned on what right qualifies me to say something more than once in this thread, I've always stated why i hold any opinions I do, what information they'e based on and and what relevant personal professional experience when pushed, all I'm asking for is a bit of reciprocity. <thumbs up>

 

[Johnny75]

I agree but you have the freedom to call it out as complete bollocks. As I said it is complex but I'm not entirely sure the detractors are saying 5G directly causes Coronavirus but we will never know if these people are censored.

You don't have the freedom to call it out without proof.

It's bollocks and people should be told it's bollocks and fucked off and not allowed a voice until they've read the science. Your last sentence is also bollocks and basically says you have no idea radio waves cause Coronavirus or not when the science is out there to say no it doesn't.

 

[Papper]

I you think that because you've analysed the stats yourself and that's the conclusion you've come to , fine, If it's just a hunch you have, fine, if you've come to that conclusion after reading a Toby Young column where he's said that's the case, that's fine also. I've been questioned on what right qualifies me to say something more than once in this thread, I've always stated why i hold any opinions I do, what information they'e based on and and what relevant personal professional experience I have when quizzed, all I'm asking for is a bit of reciprocity. <thumbs up>

It's not a hunch the ' free press ' is full of information detailing the psycological effects of desocialisation due to lockdown. Just ask people on here how it's affecting them? You put people under virtual house arrest and it can mess them up - domestic abuse, suicides etc etc. People like Fauci have free reign to give expert analsyis of the biological component of the virus but it is a wide spectrum. All i said was that the majority of deaths were linked to age and comorbidty (regardless of ethnicity) and you jumped on it.

 

[Sniffer]

This debunks the only people dying are those who would anyway narrative

On Thursday they will produce a full analysis of the March figures which mention Covid 19 as the cause of death. It will be interesting to compare to the hospital figures to see the true extent of how many lives are being lost to the disease.

 

[Papper]

You don't have the freedom to call it out without proof.

It's bollocks and people should be told it's bollocks and fucked off and not allowed a voice until they've read the science. Your last sentence is also bollocks and basically says you have no idea radio waves cause Coronavirus or not when the science is out there to say no it doesn't.

Science demands proof and evidence. There are many detractors who are Scientists - they should not be censored. We are talking of censoring a theme and using people like Eamonn Holmes and the idiots who burn masts to justify it.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

It's not a hunch the ' free press ' is full of information detailing the psycological effects of desocialisation due to lockdown. Just ask people on here how it's affecting them? You put people under virtual house arrest and it can mess them up - domestic abuse, suicides etc etc. People like Fauci have free reign to give expert analsyis of the biological component of the virus but it is a wide spectrum. All i said was that the majority of deaths were linked to age and comorbidty (regardless of ethnicity) and you jumped on it.

asking you to say what that's based on, politely, and explaining why I have asked isn't jumping on it. You asked me a question and I gave you a very in depth, comprehensive answer all I've asked is that moving forward. you to show me the same courtesy, that's not jumping on you <thumbs up>

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

There is not a single scientific word in favour of the bollocks . Not one.

 

[Aikiwolf]

There is a correlation between Subway Sandwich franchises and hotspots of Coronavirus though, I am disappointed that celebrities haven't spotted this and pointed it out!

Nb: correlation does not equal causation, as with 5G masts they happen to be in densely populated areas.

5G is less dangerous than sunlight. No ifs. No buts.

 

[Johnny75]

Science demands proof and evidence. There are many detractors who are Scientists - they should not be censored. We are talking of censoring a theme and using people like Eamonn Holmes and the idiots who burn masts to justify it.

Post one.

 

[PuntsWolf]

There is not a single scientific word in favour of the bollocks . Not one.

You don’t have to be a scientist you just have to have a basic grasp of physics and biology (I’m talking like low level GCSE), which was compulsory to everyone unless you didn’t go to school, to understand it is total bollocks.

 

[Johnny75]

This debunks the only people dying are those who would anyway narrative

Where is this narrative, I've not seen it anywhere.