Johnny75

[Tony Towner]

What's revelling here?

If you're referring to me saying "lovely" that is in reference to if people are fine with the stoving comment.

Just shows, if you're looking for something to be negative you'll find it!!

Or a complete lack of self awareness.
As always you never own anything you say on here.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Or a complete lack of self awareness

So you think I posted "lovely" in response to Johnny being banned?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Johnny was banned and within the hour you fired several posts aimed at every other member (including myself) who had wound you up, looking for a response and maybe a second ban. Transparent.

I responded to the pile on from Saturday night, of which you were a part of, Johnny wasn't part of that at all.

I didn't call for bans or any ramifications at all!

And perhaps look at yourself on Saturday night, you just jumped on a bandwagon, you didn't make a point or counter point about anything I'd posted, you just enjoyed Booz, PK etc giving me digs and got involved.

 

[Tony Towner]

So you think I posted "lovely" in response to Johnny being banned?

No, you are making it very clear that you think he should be. Bear's victim blaming comment which I replied to implied you should be receiving sympathy. I don't see you as a victim and if there were sympathy to be given it would be in short supply given the way you are clearly enjoying the spectacle.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

No, you are making it very clear that you think he should be.

I have explained my experiences of Johnny over the years, including one occasion where I met him in person, as have many others.

I was asked to clarify those things further and I did.

The response was the implication that I am lying or over sensitive.

And now you're here telling me I'm doing a victory lap.

I didn't report Johnny, I had him on ignore, his banning was NOTHING to do with me at all.

 

[Tony Towner]

I didn't report Johnny, I had him on ignore, his banning was NOTHING to do with me at all.

Exactly. Anyway, we won't agree. Nothing will change re the situation, so I'll leave this thread alone from now on

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Exactly

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[Paddingtonwolf]

So you saw a leading poster had just received a permanent ban and then decided it would be a great time to hit every other poster in the "pile-on" with a response designed to see if they would bite, all as a happy coincidence.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

So you saw a leading poster had just received a permanent ban and then decided it would be a great time to hit every other poster in the "pile-on" with a response designed to see if they would bite, all as a happy coincidence.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

I didn't realise I needed your permission as to when or what I could post about!

But yes it was a coincidence, I had given whether I would continue posting on TWF some thought after Saturday night. (DW with confirm this) As my posts explained that had nothing to do with Johnny, he didn't join the pile on on Saturday, but you did.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I have made my point so will leave it at that and stick you back on ignore.

 

[Jinky]

When I started this thread I didn’t really expect it to pan out the way it has (not really sure what I expected, tbf) - but I’ll be honest, it’s been a bit of an eye opener.

For a long time I thought it was a ‘me’ problem. I thought, for whatever reason, Johnny had taken a dislike to me, or perhaps just didn’t like the way I post/posted (like others I’ve learned to tweak the way I post over the years to avoid confrontation with him and others). I found it even weirder as I got on so well with Johnny in person & genuinely enjoyed his company. So it’s been interesting to read the way he has affected other people and their experience on this forum - it’s almost been a relief to find out it’s not just been me. Reading through this thread prompted me to trawl back through my private messages and in one particular PM I got from Johnny he called me some horrible names - but I guess because I’d met him in person, I just sort of let it slide

With that in mind, I can quite easily understand why others might not take his posts or insults so lightly.

There was also a period in time where it felt like he’d follow me around the forum leaving the classic laughing emoji on every post I left, regardless of topic or content. I can see earlier in this thread that this was dismissed (by posters who have likely never experienced it), but I can assure you that even though we’re all “grown ups”, it does genuinely make the experience of posting and logging in more miserable when you have someone passively aggressively leaving their mark on every post you make. This had thankfully stopped for a couple of years as our opinions on Wolves, Fosun & Jeff Shi became more aligned - but I have noticed this treatment get handed out to other posters more recently who had a different point of view (there was about a three week period not long ago where literally every post from EP had a laughing emoji on it by Johnny, regardless of content). It was hard enough reading the forum and noticing it, let alone how it probably felt being on the end of it. If you’ve never experienced it, I can see why you may have dismissed it and thought “grow up”, but I get it.

I started this thread because I didn’t want Johnny permanently banned. His knowledge and contribution to the actual FOOTBALL discussions on this forum will be sorely missed if it’s upheld. And in person, I really like the guy. But having read through this thread and the experience others have had, if he was allowed back on, I think Johnny himself would have to take responsibility for how he’s made others feel - how his posting style comes across to others - and there would have to be a marked improvement/change so that he comes across online more like the decent chap he is offline. If there’s no willingness on his part to do that then maybe it was the correct decision after all. Tricky one for the mods.

(Apologies for the essay).

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

So, to clarify Paddy, you have taken me off ignore, had a couple of digs, then put me back on ignore.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Put the fishing rod away.

 

[Kenny]

Can we agree that:

Some posters don't like the way EP posts
EP doesn't like the replies he gets
Everyone is still happy to post on here
Everyone understands where the ignore button is
All those involved activate it against the relevant person.

Unless of course the only reason to post on here is to get a reaction, then carry on as you were.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Do whatever you like Kenny. I have made my point.

 

[Kenny]

Do whatever you like Kenny. I have made my point.

Doing nowt sir, bar trying to get people facing away from each other where needed.

 

[White Wolf]

With this thread and its purpose I'm curious if the permanent ban is being reconsidered or if we're looking more at clarifying the rules.

It's been kind of derailed by what (it feels like to me) is a minority mostly using it as a chance to mostly just stick the boot in about someone who can't reply and/or actively looking to wind people up about it, even saying he is abusive and condescending in person. A certain poster does appear to be taking this as a chance to dance on a grave.

From what I can see (unless other things have happened behind the scenes) Johnny's last ban was for three days and it was two years ago. Previously in 2020 he did have longer bans. We've now gone to the permanent ban so I wouldn't mind some clarification on the rules and what leads to a permanent ban as it still feels excessive particular in comparison to the ban directly above. It also looks a bit unclear because the decision wasn't unanimous amongst moderators. I get we're all just doing this for a bit of fun and it can be plenty of work for you staff, hopefully recruiting some new ones helps us better get to that point of clarity and ideally the ban be reconsidered. Might need the temperature dialled down first and clearer heads.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's been kind of derailed by what (it feels like to me) is a minority mostly using it as a chance to mostly just stick the boot in about someone who can't reply and/or actively looking to wind people up about it, even saying he is abusive and condescending in person. A certain poster does appear to be taking this as a chance to dance on a grave.

I would love to know how a thread created to discuss the banning of said individual and the subsequent conversations regarding his conduct that may or may not have played a part in his banning can be seen as a "derailment"?

Also, I'll say it again, i've made comments about my experience of Johnny, i was then asked to clarify my comments, i have done that, and i've since been told when doing so that i'm lying, conducting a "victory lap" and now "dancing on a grave".

Perhaps given these statements, a realignment on who is actually "overly sensitive" is required at this point?

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Ah, you're the guy who was berating and lecturing everyone for being negative about the club just after Lage was sacked?

I think you'll find everyone is much more positive about the club now mate. Welcome back

I want to use the laughing emoji here, but am afraid it could be interpreted as laughing at you instead of with you.

 

[Trips]

I would love to know how a thread created to discuss the banning of said individual and the subsequent conversations regarding his conduct that may or may not have played a part in his banning can be seen as a "derailment"?

Also, I'll say it again, i've made comments about my experience of Johnny, i was then asked to clarify my comments, i have done that, and i've since been told when doing so that i'm lying, conducting a "victory lap" and now "dancing on a grave".

Perhaps given these statements, a realignment on who is actually "overly sensitive" is required at this point?

Who has said you were lying?