Coronavirus

[Kenny]

I've started shouting "We can see you sneaking out" from the window, helps my sanity and reminds me of those heady days when football existed...

I'm a North Banker so left my seat early to avoid the rush in the kitchen

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm a North Banker so left my seat early to avoid the rush in the kitchen

I've been offering myself a fiver every time I cook something and then turning it down as this is a cashless household.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But the fucking prick is doing everything the rest of the world and the global medical authorities say is a fucking disaster waiting to happen because he "has a feeling"

His feeling is that the economy will kill him in the primaries. He has no consideration that it might kill him and tens of millions of other Americans in a rather more permanent fashion.

 

[Pablowolf]

Paddy and I were coughing up some serious lung butter a couple of matches ago. I've watched 'Outbreak' again and I think we may be the monkeys.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

I don't think Trump has been the one messaging that stuff. More of a confluence of personal anecdotes.

According to the WHO the US could become the next epicentre which suggests the peak isn't reached. I honestly don't see how the US deals with this without the country being decimated....there is essentially no paid sick leave, no real social safety net, and no functioning healthcare system that works for everyone. It now looks like your government will return to business as usual in a few weeks. What happens then, hundreds of thousands of dead within a few weeks or months, or tens of millions of bankrupt citizens forever unable to pay their medical bills?

 

[AndyWolves]

Here's Germany's numbers, they absolutely don't make sense from an intensive care perspective. Out of 29k cases only 23 are in intensive care, that's 0.08% way lower than any other country. Italy is at 6.5% for the same measure.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

One theory could be that Germany are right at the start of their outbreak and they're actually getting a good handle on the numbers. Whereas Spain, Italy, UK etc are further along and if that's the case there are significantly, orders of magnitude, more people infected than we think

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Paddy and I were coughing up some serious lung butter a couple of matches ago. I've watched 'Outbreak' again and I think we may be the monkeys.

Lung butter is not a symptom. The cough is dry as gandhis sandals. There is nothing to bring up.

Anyway - waiting for my NHS volunteer confirmation email. Looking forward to hopefully being able to help in some small way. I recommend it to everyone furloughed to apply.

 

[Alan]

According to the WHO the US could become the next epicentre which suggests the peak isn't reached. I honestly don't see how the US deals with this without the country being decimated....there is essentially no paid sick leave, no real social safety net, and no functioning healthcare system that works for everyone. It now looks like your government will return to business as usual in a few weeks. What happens then, hundreds of thousands of dead within a few weeks or months, or tens of millions of bankrupt citizens forever unable to pay their medical bills?

I'm a socialist living in the United States. Literally none of that would surprise me.

 

[leedswolf]

Wouldn't surprise me if it's been around longer. I had all the classic symptoms back in mid November, knocked me about a fair bit for a week.

I had similar symptons in mid October, took about 3 weeks for it to clear up. I put it down to a 'virus'. Not flu, but sore throat, runny nose and a dry cough. I still carried on working and took over the counter meds.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Lung butter is not a symptom. The cough is dry as gandhis sandals. There is nothing to bring up.

Anyway - waiting for my NHS volunteer confirmation email. Looking forward to hopefully being able to help in some small way. I recommend it to everyone furloughed to apply.

I don't think you can be as categorical as that. Lots of people have displayed very different symptoms. While many present with the dry cough and fever there have equally been those who have had sore throats, runny nose, headaches, blocked sinuses and more. This doesn't present the same way in everybody.

 

[Tredman]

People ‘thinking’ they had it and ‘thinking’ they are ok can cause a lot damage. Until there is a proper antibody test nobody knows.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If (and it is a fucking huge if) I had it, then issue was weeks ago. I'm sure as part of the NHS volunteer stuff I will have to mention it. And I will, and see what the view is. If I can't deliver, I could still manage phone lines by the look of it. But they will decide, not me.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

If it’s been around for a while and it’s infectious as the science suggests then we’d have been fucked a long time ago

Then again wouldnt be the first time that a virus has mutated, apparently there are two strains going around at the minute one seemingly deadlier then the other.

https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/world-news/coronavirus/mutation-what-does-it-mean-what-is-it/

There was something going on in November all conjecture but maybe that was a milder less infectious version of what we are experiencing now.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

People ‘thinking’ they had it and ‘thinking’ they are ok can cause a lot damage. Until there is a proper antibody test nobody knows.

Got to agree with that. My ex said this evening she thinks she and our 8 year old daughter had it in January. Our girl then spent 3 days with her parents, both in their 70s, one who had pneumonia last year, the other who liver sclerosis. It was a tough cold nothing more

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Got to agree with that. My ex said this evening she thinks she and our 8 year old daughter had it in January. Our girl then spent . It was and cold, nothing korre6 for sure 3 days with her parents, both in their 70s, one who had pneumonia last year, the other who liver sclerosis

Mate, are YOU ok?!

 

[The Saturday Boy]

If (and it is a fucking huge if) I had it, then issue was weeks ago. I'm sure as part of the NHS volunteer stuff I will have to mention it. And I will, and see what the view is. If I can't deliver, I could still manage phone lines by the look of it. But they will decide, not me.

It doesn’t matter whether you have had it or not, deliveries will be undertaken with social distancing. They basically need feet on the ground to move things from one place to another for those who can’t do it themselves. I’m involved with a community support group where I live...basically we will do what we are told. Unless you are a psychopath you will be fine.

Oh wait...

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

Some positive news, it would appear that the virus isnt mutating as fast as it could do given how many people it has infected, that would mean a long lasting vaccine would be possible (albeit 18 months away)

Which led me to another possible positive, perhaps this will finally kill dead (pun intended) the antivax movement, and who knows, perhaps the anti-science movement in general will disappear.

** I've not checked the source of the above and now cant find it, may well be just bolloxs, although it does shoehorn my hope to destroy the anti-vax brigade

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

I'm a socialist living in the United States. Literally none of that would surprise me.

All the best to you all Alan. Fingers crossed

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

Mate, are YOU ok?!

Not when writing on a phone without my glasses, absolutely not :icon_wink:

 

[Alan]

People ‘thinking’ they had it and ‘thinking’ they are ok can cause a lot damage. Until there is a proper antibody test nobody knows.

Don't necessarily disagree. Just because my family might have had it (as Paddy says, "a huge fucking if") doesn't mean that any of us should feel immune to it or ignore social distancing or anything like that.

Like the word was going around a week or so ago, this ain't the chicken pox. Having had it once doesn't necessarily preclude you from getting it again; I assure you I'm not that stupid.

All the best to you all Alan. Fingers crossed

It's all up in the air. If I do get this virus, I don't know how I'd recover financially from it.

As we say when things are out of our control, it is what it is.