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I'm also wary of extrapolating from data provided by the Chinese government. They're not exactly open.

That's what I think.
There are rumours that there was an outbreak in China two years ago, but they kept the lid on it. Who know?
I said from the start, that this is either a lot worse than has been disclosed or that the media were blowing it out of all proportion.
I've come to the conclusion that the former is true.
 
Obviously a big increase in deaths in Italy but 131 of those 133 were over 60. The average age of the 133 is apparently 81 and in over 80% of the cases the people were suffering from 2 previous diseases. If all that is true then much like it has been reported previously, this virus only seems to really affect the over 70s and particularly those with health issues already.
 
Are any of the deaths young healthy people?
 
by this coming weekend i expect Greece to be closed.
i said in an earlier post they would over react (react early) in order to prevent, and it seems, whether right or wrong that is what is happening.
football games including wolves now behind closed doors, assuming the players will play.
 
Are any of the deaths young healthy people?

Impossible to know if they are healthy, but this shows some young people die, though obviously much lower %age
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you guys have some decent. serious newspapers and news channels, here ee we have Trump Tv, the people will quarantine themselves from sheer uneducated fear. and it is rife.
 
Has anybody heard anything from someone who's had it ? interview or anything ?
 
Another uk death. Man in his 60's with underlying health problems.
 
Has anybody heard anything from someone who's had it ? interview or anything ?

There's a few interviews out there on the net

The ones I've seen make it seem not too bad but people are dying
 
It isn’t the virus itself that is the main problem, it is the impact on society. The worst case scenario in this country would have an extreme impact. Hospitals already facing normal winter pressures would be faced with increased admissions and the likelihood that a large number of their staff would be infected. Should infected staff who are otherwise we’ll continue to work, if so should they only work with confirmed covid-19 infected people? Hospitals will have to discharge people they would not normally discharged putting them in the care of social care which is also under pressure and may face the same staffing problems the NHS faces.

Moving goods around the country will become more problematic especially if there are restrictions on movement in and out of certain areas as we are seeing in Italy. And again, goods require people to move them and there would be less people available if those infected are isolated.

There may be much that can be done “remotely” but there is still so much of our society that relies on social contact. Businesses will fail if they have no customers, jobs will be lost and people will face financial hardship. The economy would tank possibly on a scale that would dwarf what happened on 2008.

Anything less than the worst case scenario is better but nobody really knows what the consequences of a 2% infection rate compared to a 20% infection rate compared to an 80% infection rate 20% would be. I guess that even a 2% infection rate across the population would only be possible if significant mitigation was put in place as it seems to be a virus that is very contagious.

2% is roughly 1.2 million people and if it got to that stage it is likely to be concentrated in densely populated areas. London, Birmingham, Manchester... the impact of this taking hold are multiple and likely to effect people beyond whether their symptoms are mild or severe.
 
For those interested in data, and data in relation to health and development in particular, this guy is always interesting and relevant. He is usually very anti-sensationalist and spends a good amount of time on twitter pointing out things are in general getting much better.

It’s quite interesting to see him posting a fairly serious thread on the spread of corona virus:

https://twitter.com/maxcroser/status/1236932313642143745?s=21
 
We were planning some digital skills workshops across our different sites this month and next and I've just been told to postpone them all til June.

Hugely frustrating considering we have been planning these since start of January.
 
It's interesting to see the aim of containment is to slow the virus spread down rather than stop it.

The thinking looks like it's better for the virus to spread slowly so the people who need the care can get it rather than everyone all at once.

Also, it looks better for people to get the virus now and as we approach warmer weather rather than in November / December which is traditionally flu season.
 
We're considering asking healthy staff to self quarantine to avoid catching it, so we can retain minimum viable staffing levels.
 
I'm really wanting work to tell us to stop coming in,after all we deal with SEN children and the associated health problems some of them have,and elderly people to day centres and all the associated health problems they have,I just want a fortnight away from my idiot manager
 
Being completely selfish but we have a family holiday in Spain the beginning of next month, I really hope that this isn't affected
 
When did the Government make the announcement about the only known cure for Covid 19 being toilet paper? Or, if that's sold out, kitchen roll!

I think I'd rather be confined to my house with enough food than with 100 toilet rolls. Absolute idiocy
 
When did the Government make the announcement about the only known cure for Covid 19 being toilet paper? Or, if that's sold out, kitchen roll!

I think I'd rather be confined to my house with enough food than with 100 toilet rolls. Absolute idiocy

I honestly don't get it. I'm down to the last 2 rolls so need to get a pack of 12 but I'm competing with a bunch of idiots who seemingly have corona mixed up with cholera or are planning a mass shitathon. Twats.
 
mrs jelly popped to asda yesterday, and was flabbergasted to see the aisles without shitroll, kitchen roll (in case you run out of shitroll natch), pasta, and canned goods especially soup.

I don't recall it being like this when swine flu was a risk. Anyone got a better memory than me (everyone obvs!)
 
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