Wolves 1-2 Fulham: Verdict Thread

[Templeton Peck]

Good first half, shite second. 2 awful goals conceded. Semedo and Bueno at fault with basic errors.

 

[Squeak]

Not having Munetsi. Parks player.

Well, a lot of us had Bellegarde in that category for a very long time. Perhaps we just need to be patient?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Shouldn't have lost that as there was nothing in the game. The endless dead possession at 2-1 down wasn't great.

Ultimately you cannot play utter shite like Doherty and Bueno and get away with it. It's an insult to Russian tanks to suggest they turn slower. Bueno compounds it by getting stupidly tight 50 yards from goal all the time, you must know you can't run?

Played well for most of the first half but not enough there.

 

[jd1981]

Well, a lot of us had Bellegarde in that category for a very long time. Perhaps we just need to be patient?

We kind of don’t have time, bit like being in a bull fight and asking the bull to go easy until you’re ready.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Yep if Djigga isn’t oven ready to replace Bueno or Doc why the fuck is he here? Munetsi again doesn’t look ready.
Agbadou looks the real deal but 1/3 being ready to go isn’t a stat we can afford.

Munetsi is 29 in June.

It might take a player time to adjust to a new league in terms of speed of the game but you'd still expect him to be able to have the fundamentals. I just don't see that with Munetsi.

 

[Loki]

A poor performance all round. At least it was against a better team and a better Manager. Let`s face it, we`re a one man team and if he isn`t firing.....

 

[big mean bunny]

Decent spell after conceding and that was about it, just one of those days where it felt like the more we tried to force it, the worse we became.

Still need a keeper upgrade but we still have a very ramshackle and quality lacking defence, there will be more days like today sadly before the end of the year, but hopefully we can minimise them.

 

[sycophantia]

You simply can't hand decent teams a free goal at start of each half. Multiple players at fault.
We had a good 20 minute spell after they scored, then Silva sorted that out.
We never looked creating a chance second half.
Not going in too hard on Munetsi as he's not played many Premier league games and he's not a forward but I have very little hope he'll turn out to be a good signing.
Andre and Gomes were excellent, Bellegarde decent, not many others showed up.
Bueno just gave up. I thought Cunha was poor in the second half, possibly just knackered. We really need to stop trying to pass the ball to him when he has 3 defenders round him.
Larsen getting his usual stick but I thought he did OK. Never had a decent pass to him and he held the ball up well 2 or 3 times.
Don't think there's much between these 2 teams, probably the bench was the difference tonight. They managed the game superbly after they scored their second.
Frustrated.

 

[Del Woppio]

That second half was fucking pathetic. Being better than the three that come up won't work forever. Too much shit in the dressing room and the boardroom. It comes to something that a nobody journeyman coach who's ambition is to collect a p45s from as many countries as possible is about 83rd on the list of stuff that's wrong at this football club.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Well, a lot of us had Bellegarde in that category for a very long time. Perhaps we just need to be patient?

Given the position we were in we aren’t afforded the luxury of patience. We may well stay up but that will be in large part due to Leicester and Ipswich being dreadful. If Djiga isn’t already better than Doherty and Bueno why have we paid big money for him, as nobody would pay a fraction of that for either of those two?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Given the position we were in we aren’t afforded the luxury of patience. We may well stay up but that will be in large part due to Leicester and Ipswich being dreadful. If Djiga isn’t already better than Doherty and Bueno why have we paid big money for him, as nobody would pay a fraction of that for either of those two?

I wouldn't pay 10p for either of those pair. A shite right back who couldn't defend in League One 12 years ago and an absolute fanny who runs like Thora Hird.

 

[Squeak]

We kind of don’t have time, bit like being in a bull fight and asking the bull to go easy until you’re ready.

We have no choice but to be patient with him though. And the loss tonight wasn't all on him.

 

[Squeak]

I wouldn't pay 10p for either of those pair. A shite right back who couldn't defend in League One 12 years ago and an absolute fanny who runs like Thora Hird.

I think we've gathered your opinion on them both but it does get a bit monotonous when you lay into them every week when other players were also responsible for the loss. The issue here isn't them per se, but a football club that hasn't recruited better. Instead of slagging them off each game, it would be better if you gave them some credit for their efforts. At present, it just seems that no matter how hard they try or how they play, you just find reason to slate them.

 

[Del Woppio]

Well, a lot of us had Bellegarde in that category for a very long time. Perhaps we just need to be patient?

I love how the narrative has shifted to the point he's like a consistent version peak Paul Pogba, rather than the fact he's a mehdfielder that hasn't looked like a competition winner for a few weeks. Hwang had a purple patch and people thought he'd turned into Gary Linekar

 

[WVWolf]

Easy to say now but he picked the wrong team.

We had a physical side, which is fine against Bournemouth and Liverpool where you need to cover ground, block passing options, and you can be counter-attacking and not need to keep the ball.

That first XI had one attacker in the team. Two centre-backs, three full-backs and four central midfielders. It's not going to work at home to Fulham when you need to take the initiative.

That second half was painful. Zero ideas, zero creativity and no real pace.

So, I think that one is on Vitor.

 

[jd1981]

We have no choice but to be patient with him though. And the loss tonight wasn't all on him.

Pretty sure I’ve had the shits that move further and quicker than Doc and Santi. That’s one problem the other is that Sa has one gaff in him per game.
As I said earlier if you bring in 3 players in January and you’re in a dogfight then at least 2 need to hit the ground running.
We’re desperate that Cunha performs otherwise we create very little.
Whilst I always want us to stay up the very thought of selling Cunha and trusting Hobbs to replace him fills me with dread of what next season will be like.

 

[Squeak]

I love how the narrative has shifted to the point he's like a consistent version peak Paul Pogba, rather than the fact he's a mehdfielder that hasn't looked like a competition winner for a few weeks. Hwang had a purple patch and people thought he'd turned into Gary Linekar

Indeed. Hwang has always been shit though. I'll never forget the look of the other players early in his Wolves career when he failed to trap a simple ball and let it go out for a throw in. If Hwang ever put in a performance that we have seen from Bellegarde in the last month, we'd all be happy but some things in life are never going to happen.

 

[jd1981]

On a side note JRB needs to perform like he has the last 3-4 games for most of what remains of this season before I’ll consider that he’s the real deal as opposed to just having a good spell.

 

[Squeak]

Easy to say now but he picked the wrong team.

We had a physical side, which is fine against Bournemouth and Liverpool where you need to cover ground, block passing options, and you can be counter-attacking and not need to keep the ball.

That first XI had one attacker in the team. Two centre-backs, three full-backs and four central midfielders. It's not going to work at home to Fulham when you need to take the initiative.

That second half was painful. Zero ideas, zero creativity and no real pace.

So, I think that one is on Vitor.

I don't think it is. It's purely and simply on the players who put us behind the eight ball conceding early goals in each half like that. When that happens, the game plan is ripped up. We looked decent on the attack first half but huffed and puffed second half with no quality. Sure, you can argue the subs, but reality is they didn't impact the game whatsoever.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

We were poor in the second half but it’s not a disaster.