The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2017/18

[Deutsch Wolf]

My fave comment on the sell on clause was the guy who ranted that we missed out on millions as he failed to realise the sell on clause only worked on the 1st transfer after he left us and he thought every big money move he made we would have got 15% if the fee.

I had to email the Guardian's Knowledge column to correct that mook. More time I'll never get back.

 

[Johnny75]

750k on £5.5m, or £6m without sell on is us only missing out on 250k. Hardly a clanger.

So the club missed out on a sum of money between £250k and £800k. Still losing out on a substantial sum of money at that time.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

So the club missed out on a sum of money between £250k and £800k. Still losing out on a substantial sum of money at that time.

Around half a Robert Taylor, at most

 

[Johnny75]

Around half a Robert Taylor, at most

That's a big half.

 

[Lupo]

Big Sam was in Dubai yesterday, Everton called him and asked him for talks and he said he wasn't interested. They called him back and offered him £12m, he said he would fly back for talks. Desperate. Good work for Sam

 

[Tony Towner]

I bet he got them to pay for the flight / charter a private one as well

 

[PuntsWolf]

Whatever you might think of Everton’s squad, it’s not that bad. Certainly not bottom 3, so he should be able to turn them round ok with what he’s got.

Gueye - Schneiderlin

Lennon - Sig - Mirallas/Lookman/Calvert Lewis

Rooney

That’s not a bad front 6

 

[MARKakaJIM]

It's not bad when if/when they turn up.

Rooney's good days are few are far between now, Lennon was never great and now age is against him too, Mirallas has maybe 5 good games a season and the other options there are pretty much kids. There's only Sigurdsson that's really reliable in there and even he hasn't been that since signing for them.

You might just be able to cobble something together that looks alright on paper but it's brittle as anything and the defence is an accident waiting to happen so you're even more reliant on the shaky front line.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Midfield two have been absolutely piss all season too. Schneiderlin has really dropped off and seems to have an attitude problem, Gueye is incredibly limited.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Bolasie is no world beater but he’d get in the team. Barkley can come in too. They will be fine

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Bolasie is no world beater but he’d get in the team. Barkley can come in too. They will be fine

Aye, they should be. So they shouldn't need a survival specialist at stupid cost.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

PAUL INCE: THE REGURGITATION OF SAME OLD MANAGERS IS SO FRUSTRATING

The former Blackburn, Blackpool and MK Dons boss has hit out at English football’s culture of appointing the same old managers...

There’s so much money in the Premier League now that, when their teams are in trouble, owners are looking for the managers with the most experience to get them out of it.

That’s why you see the same old names being appointed – Big Sam, Pardew, Hodgson, Moyesie.

Though I understand where these owners are coming from, it’s so frustrating – every time a job comes up, the same managers get regurgitated. It’s always the same names, and there’s now a generation of British coaches who are being missed out.

Managers like myself, Tim Sherwood, Chris Powell and Ryan Giggs. All of us have managed in the Premier League, and done good jobs in our careers, but we’re being skipped.

I understand that Big Sam has had massive experience, more than me, but it’s not like I’m wet behind the ears – I’ve had more than 35 years in football, across all four leagues.

I’ve galvanised every team I’ve been at. Every time I’ve gone into a club, we’ve hit the ground running.

I know how to get a team going and playing, to rediscover that fight and desire, which these struggling Premier League teams are missing. It’s something I’m good at. I could go to a Palace or West Brom and do a good job, but I don’t get that opportunity because owners want to take the ‘safe’ route, even though experience doesn’t guarantee you anything.

I know I’ve had bad times in my career, but so has Moyesie and Pardew – they get second chances and other opportunities, people like myself and Tim don’t.

We’re in an era where owners are looking for massive experience or a foreign manager, and that’s not just the Premier League, it’s feeding down into the Championship and League One.

It’s something we, as a nation, need to look at. There’s no point telling all these players who are approaching the ends of their careers to go on a coaching course if there isn’t an avenue to coach in their own country. It’s being blocked by foreign and experienced coaches.

Look at Tim Sherwood. He knows the game inside out, he could be a top manager, but he can’t get a job. That can’t be right for someone of his knowledge and what he’s done in the game.

The same way that English kids are being blocked by foreign kids, the same thing is happening with English coaches.

Two things Paul:

1) You didn't "hit the ground running" at Blackburn, you won 3 games out of 17 and then were sacked. And that is your only Premier League job.

2) Chris Powell has never managed a Premier League team, not even as caretaker. Furthermore, he's never even been on the coaching staff at any Premier League club. Ryan Giggs was in charge of Man Utd for four games, in one of them they lost at home to Sunderland.

I mean the piece starts off by saying the same thing I've been on about this week, then quickly turns into "I am Paul Ince, give me a top job now". He's such a twat.

 

[The Bear]

Lol. I was racking my brains trying to think who Powell had managed!

 

[Tony Towner]

...and Tim Sherwood was last binned for taking Swindon down to Div 2

 

[YoungWolf]

Two things Paul:

1) You didn't "hit the ground running" at Blackburn, you won 3 games out of 17 and then were sacked. And that is your only Premier League job.

2) Chris Powell has never managed a Premier League team, not even as caretaker. Furthermore, he's never even been on the coaching staff at any Premier League club. Ryan Giggs was in charge of Man Utd for four games, in one of them they lost at home to Sunderland.

I mean the piece starts off by saying the same thing I've been on about this week, then quickly turns into "I am Paul Ince, give me a top job now". He's such a twat.

:icon_lol:

I was just going to say his first few lines are alright and then it turns into absolute drivel!!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It would be fair to say that Charlie did a really good job at Macclesfield and McDons (first time). Then he went to Blackburn and as detailed, he was rubbish. Since then:

- Back to McDons. Finished 13th in L1. Left after a year
- Notts County. Lasted less than six months. Lost nine games in a row (club record)
- Blackpool. Won 12 out of 42 and was sacked after they'd failed to win in nearly two months

Yes mate, I can't see why Premier League clubs aren't literally banging your door down.

 

[Alan]

Jurgen Klinsmann in talks to manage Australia.

 

[White Wolf]

Slutsky has left Hull. He had seemed resigned to that fate for a while now.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Slutsky has left Hull. He had seemed resigned to that fate for a while now.

Not a great surprise, but as often seems the case nowadays, is there another manager lined up, or will Hull City limp along with a caretaker manager?

 

[YoungWolf]

Think Hull are in trouble now. apparently sacked 'head of strategies' which also suggests they don't have a strategy...