The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2014/15

[Sniffer]

More from Jurgen Klopp on his decision to step down as manager of Borussia Dortmund at the end of the season.

"It's not that I am tired," Klopp said. "I haven't had any contact with another club but I don't plan to take a year off either.

"I really think the decision is the right one. This club deserves to be coached by the 100% right manager. I've always said that if I thought I was no longer the perfect coach for this extraordinary club, I would say so."

 

[Sniffer]

Sounds like it might not be a very long sabbatical at all. Klopp has said he has no intentions to take a full year out, and he will be at Dortmund until the end of the Bundesliga season. He will be at the Etihad by the end of July I reckon, at the latest.

Personally, I think he would be the absolutely perfect fit for Arsenal as and when Wenger retires.

Not Ancelotti for City?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

It'll be interesting to see where he does end up, could he potentially be a bit too eccentric for City? Their management choices all seem to have been pretty straight laced to date.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He's great value, he can get a bit snippy when his team loses though, don't buy into the Mr Nice Guy stuff wholesale because he can be as bad as anybody at times.

I'm not surprised he's leaving Dortmund because clearly that project has come to an end and it's unsustainable to keep losing the best players all the time, eventually it will catch up with you. The concern with him is that he really does only have one way of playing, which is great to watch and hard to stop when the team is on its game - however it requires a very specific type of player to work, you also need the right support staff, it might be coincidence but Dortmund's results haven't been the same since Oliver Bartlett (fitness coach) left, also there is the concern that it might all have been worked out. No one system or style of play can succeed forever.

 

[Langers]

The concern with him is that he really does only have one way of playing, which is great to watch and hard to stop when the team is on its game - however it requires a very specific type of player to work, you also need the right support staff, it might be coincidence but Dortmund's results haven't been the same since Oliver Bartlett (fitness coach) left, also there is the concern that it might all have been worked out. No one system or style of play can succeed forever.

Is it fair to say that City would need too big an overhaul of their squad to make that system work?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Is it fair to say that City would need too big an overhaul of their squad to make that system work?

Absolutely. Average age is way too high to be playing that way, unless they were going eight in and eight out it wouldn't work.

 

[Lord Knows]

It'll be interesting to see where he does end up, could he potentially be a bit too eccentric for City? Their management choices all seem to have been pretty straight laced to date.

He demands the complete opposite to what most of the City players are prepared to give. High energy without the ball.

 

[Nando]

Watching Yaya under Klopp would be hilarious.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Pretty sure Yaya will be longed off to Inter in the summer, Bobby M will happily sanction £20m or whatever for him (Thohir can afford it), big name to appease the fans after another shit season, would still look good in that league. City need rid of him because he's turning into a parody of himself, the lazy bastard.

 

[Kenny]

Micky Adams binned by Tranmere

 

[Lord Knows]

Thomas Tuchel has been confirmed as the new Borussia Dortmund manager, succeeding Jurgen Klopp.

While Klopp has worked wonders at BVB, he had clearly run out of energy and ideas, and his replacement could be a pivotal moment in Dortmund’s revival. Tuchel has the tactical chops to mix it with the best, he has the man-management ability to deal with big egos and mould a cohesive unit, and he is young enough to build a lasting legacy.

http://offsiderulepodcast.com/2015/...n-prove-theres-life-after-klopp-for-dortmund/

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Martin Samuel trying to link Klopp to West Ham in today's paper, deluded much.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Almost certainly, but I can see where the article comes from, I suppose. Unless Klopp is parachuted in at Real Madrid to replace Ancelotti (which seems unlikely) or Arsene Wenger retires (again unlikely) I am not sure where Klopp is going to turn up. Man City seem almost certain to have a vacancy but I can't see Klopp being overly interest in that set-up or squad. So where among the big boys is there likely to be a space? I doubt Van Gaal is going anywhere, and I think Brentdan is probably safe for at least one more season at Anfield. Mourinho is going absolutely nowhere.

So in an effort to link Klopp to the premier league, Samuel is looking at the next tier down (which will interest Klopp about as much as a dose of the clap) and as he is a West Ham fan, it is an "obvious" fit for him as a journo. Alan Brazil tried to suggest that Klopp would be perfect for Newcastle, which was also fucking hilarious.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I suppose Klopp could potentially be interested in another project like that though, Dortmund were pretty down and out when he came into it weren't they? And he'd already been interviewed for the Bayern job before he ended up at Dortmund I think so he'd been on the radar of bigger clubs before he went there.

A lot could depend on how long he's prepared to wait, if City have got their sights on someone else and he's determined to come in the PL straight away then he'll have no choice than to go for a mid table side at best.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I think he may end up taking that sabbatical for one season and wait for the perfect opportunity.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

That could be just as much of a gamble as plumping for a lower side though, finish on a really underwhelming year at Dortmund and then take a year out doing nothing, could be plenty people have a good spell in that time and rocket past him into the limelight.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I agree with you Mark, but I think the cult of personality that is Klopp will probably keep him in the limelight.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Suppose that's going to come down to how active he is, if he's still visibly present at a lot of games during any sabbatical then no doubt people will try to find him out for interviews and such but if he's more low key in that year off then he could easily be forgotten about by many, especially considering the relative failure of his final year at Dortmund.

I think it's all going to boil down to how much he wants to get back into it, can't see him turning his nose up at what's still two very big clubs in the likes of West Ham or Newcastle if he really wanted to crack the Premier League, though the setup at Newcastle would probably deter him after already losing so many successful players at Dortmund.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

People don't forget about managers like that, Benitez hasn't had a problem getting high profile jobs despite spells out of work and not being any good for years.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

After watching that semi final I'm not so sure Rodgers is safe. Awful tactics.

If Liverpool could attract Klopp they'd be nuts not to go for it, Rodgers isn't going to win them anything.