The Football News Thread 2017/18 - everything not Wolves

[The Bear]

You've been able to add BT Sports to your Sky package for ages.

 

[Kenny]

You've been able to add BT Sports to your Sky package for ages.

Must be something different they are doing as they have been with the media this morning to announce the deal. Maybe its on the part of BT getting access to what is basically Now TV.

 

[Lord Knows]

Wolves are not the only club to offer soft contracts.

Stephen Ireland set to sign new short-term deal at Stoke. Hasn't played since May 2016 but is targeting a return in the FA Cup tie at Coventry.
Mark Hughes convinces Stoke board to extend Stephen Ireland's contract

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...stoke-board-extend-stephen-irelands-contract/

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Must be something different they are doing as they have been with the media this morning to announce the deal. Maybe its on the part of BT getting access to what is basically Now TV.

Basically Sky can now bundle up BT Sports in their own packages, presumably at a lower cost. At present you have to go directly through BT (and it's expensive)

 

[darlowolf64]

Basically Sky can now bundle up BT Sports in their own packages, presumably at a lower cost. At present you have to go directly through BT (and it's expensive)

I have Sky TV but BT Broadband and can add BT Sport for £5 per month

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

BT's broadband is shit and expensive though

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I have Sky TV but BT Broadband and can add BT Sport for £5 per month

My mum and dad do the same.

Then I sponge off them and use their BT account to watch things online for free with my superior broadband speeds.

 

[PuntsWolf]

I’ve looked at adding BT sport to sky. Isn’t it £5 for standard definition and then quite a bit more for HD? I’d have done it for £5 but pretty sure it isn’t that cheap in the end

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No-one wants SD these days, surely.

https://www.products.bt.com/sport/sky/

£20 up front, nowt for three months and then £32.49 a month is the "deal" at the moment. I'm signed into better than that from a while back but it's a massive pain in the arse. None of this is of any benefit to the consumer, the Sky/BT powerplay is an awful deal for everyone.

 

[Johnny75]

No-one wants SD these days, surely.

https://www.products.bt.com/sport/sky/

£20 up front, nowt for three months and then £32.49 a month is the "deal" at the moment. I'm signed into better than that from a while back but it's a massive pain in the arse. None of this is of any benefit to the consumer, the Sky/BT powerplay is an awful deal for everyone.

I'm surprised the monopolies commission haven't nipped this in the bud as effectively this is one and BT and SKY are creating a cartel.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm surprised the monopolies commission haven't nipped this in the bud as effectively this is one and BT and SKY are creating a cartel.

But given that the rights will be sewn up anyway, no-one else can compete.

We're only in this ridiculous situation because the EU decided that one broadcaster wasn't allowed to hold all the rights. So we have competition, but it means everyone either pays more or gets less than they were getting in say, 2006. See, I can criticise the EU. It's farcical.

I'm no Murdoch fan but BT Sport is fucking shit, I wish they'd disappear. Nothing innovative whatsoever, canned one of the few good shows they have in the European Football Show, token efforts at their legally obliged FTA output, Jake fucking Humphrey (every time I hear him saying ee-ver-ning it takes a year off my life), using Hoddle every week, using Robbie Savage and Chris Sutton, using Saunders and Ince, using Michael Owen, prohibitively expensive to Sky customers, a clear attempt to get people on their megashit broadband more than anything else and all paid for through the profits that Openreach make, which should really be a public enterprise. That's before I get onto their crap cricket coverage.

Wankers.

 

[Johnny75]

I think we might see online streaming become more popular as the NFL are trying to do with Amazon and Twitter. I like the competition element of it as I don't think there should be one rights holder but there should be a number of packages for the live games available to all broadcasters. It wouldn't lower the riches the PL achieve in this country but it would spread the wealth more evenly.

The reality unfortunately seems to be Murdoch is still alive and in control of SKY and BT are utter fuckwits.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well, yeah. Competition should be to let everyone who is interested pay in, everyone has rights to everything then the consumer can make their own decision based on cost and quality. That's the way it should work.

What we have now is the end user getting massively fleeced because BT want to make a power play.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

BT sport is way better than Sky for non-TV viewing, Sky Go is wank in comparison to the BT Sport app.

 

[PuntsWolf]

No-one wants SD these days, surely.

https://www.products.bt.com/sport/sky/

£20 up front, nowt for three months and then £32.49 a month is the "deal" at the moment. I'm signed into better than that from a while back but it's a massive pain in the arse. None of this is of any benefit to the consumer, the Sky/BT powerplay is an awful deal for everyone.

Yeah I can’t watch SD. I’d rather not. Hence why I haven’t. I’d pay the £5 if that got HD but it doesn’t I don’t think. I’ve got BT internet as well so I could get Cheap BT sport but never got it...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

At the moment what we have is a situation whereby let's say, Vodafone had previously owned the broadband network of the entire UK. Let's say they charged a fairly high monthly fee but you got fibre speeds and good service. Then BT come along and have the exclusive rights for anyone to access Facebook, Twitter, Google, Wikipedia and IMDB. If you want to view those sites then you need to pay BT as well. If you just pay BT then you only get those five sites and nothing else.

It's the antithesis of consumer fairness.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

BT sport is way better than Sky for non-TV viewing, Sky Go is wank in comparison to the BT Sport app.

Sky's approach to that is crazy, they're still using Silverlight which is massively outdated and unsupported by any modern browser. I've got a modded version of Firefox running it on my laptop but beyond that you're stuck with Internet Explorer which I'm pretty sure only Quirk and Paddy still use. It's Microsoft software that Microsoft's main browser won't run.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Sky's approach to that is crazy, they're still using Silverlight which is massively outdated and unsupported by any modern browser. I've got a modded version of Firefox running it on my laptop but beyond that you're stuck with Internet Explorer which I'm pretty sure only Quirk and Paddy still use. It's Microsoft software that Microsoft's main browser won't run.

Even beyond that, Sky's own rules behind it are shit, only allowed 2 devices per account unless you pay extra whereas with BT it's unlimited as far as I've tried, just log in and away you go. You never used to be able to watch any 'red button' games with Sky either, you were stuck with whatever CL game they deemed the priority, usually the one with an English team. On BT you can cycle through all the games in the player and even get alerts of goals in other games that you can click on to get a replay.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

You can only have two devices using BT at any one time but you could log in on a million devices if you want to.

Sky Go has the wonderful feature whereby if Windows has a major update, it thinks it's a new PC and tells you that you can't use it. So you have to phone them up and tell them to sort it out. Great fun.

 

[PuntsWolf]

My parents have BT sport through sky. Is there a way of stealing a log in to watch it on my iPad or whatever