Summer 2021 transfer window

[Deano]

They have to say something today or it will more or less confirm (in the general public's eyes) that Fosun are completely checked out from running the club at all.

I haven't been this despondent about things since Morgan put the club up for sale.

Don't think they will.

Not sure what they can do to make the fans feel any better about the window really so probably not much to be gained from it.

 

[YoungWolf]

Don't think they will.

Not sure what they can do to make the fans feel any better about the window really so probably not much to be gained from it.

Think this is true but think there's a lot of fans out there that won't to know the club know they fucked it this summer.

 

[redvictor]

Think this is true but think there's a lot of fans out there that won't to know the club know they fucked it this summer.

If that is want to let the club know they have done. Pretty universally as well. Even people who defend the club normally. Even Judah said " back the manager"!
As an aside I didn't realise that outside of the window we can sign free agents, as long as they were free before the window closed. Maybe to get themselves out the shit they could find a decent free agent. Just putting the question out there...

 

[Johnny75]

Don't think they will.

Not sure what they can do to make the fans feel any better about the window really so probably not much to be gained from it.

I wonder if they'll go for a few free agents now.

Mangala, N'koulou, Stoch, Grenier.

 

[redvictor]

I wonder if they'll go for a few free agents now.

Mangala, N'koulou, Stoch.

So I was correct in my assumption. Some free agent who is a box to box midfielder would probably go down well. But how many free agents are actually any good? Would they be free otherwise.

 

[Tony Towner]

There's only 2 real reasons why someone would be a free agent. They aren't very good or they are/have recently been injured. In the case of the latter even if they are any good, which is highly debatable, you then have to get them fit

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Might have to. We are paper thin in midfield at least

 

[Johnny75]

There's only 2 real reasons why someone would be a free agent. They aren't very good or they are/have recently been injured. In the case of the latter even if they are any good, which is highly debatable, you then have to get them fit

Quite a few French clubs have released players, probably due to financial strife.

There's a few players I wouldn't expect to be free agents. Grenier and Ait Bennasser are the two that stick out. One was at Rennes and the other at Monaco.

 

[Del Woppio]

They can wheel some cunt up and they can say whatever they like, but the real moment of truth will be in march when the accounts drop, and we are wherever we are in the league table. "fuck the football, we're building a stand" was what did for Morgan, and a similar ditty about FFP lies or profiteering will be highly likely

 

[Jinky]

I read something earlier about having missed the cut off to register free agents? Something to do with the registration cut off being the same as the transfer window? Although the bloke who asked the question didn't seem sure himself.

Besides, I highly doubt we're looking to bring anyone in at all.

 

[AndyWolves]

I was just reading about Everton's current plight being the result of reckless spending over a number of seasons / managers, the one tiny shred of comfort I'm taking from this window, and the only way it could really have been worse is that we didn't spunk a load of money on players not up to the task.

Whilst we haven't got what we want, we haven't really stopped ourselves or constrained ourselves in the future.

It's very, very thin comfort I know, but at least we have the option of spending properly in future windows without having a load of expensive dead wood to shift and FFP to deal with. We'd obviously need Fosun to loosen the purse strings a little and Jeff to get his shit together.

 

[Johnny75]

I was just reading about Everton's current plight being the result of reckless spending over a number of seasons / managers, the one tiny shred of comfort I'm taking from this window, and the only way it could really have been worse is that we didn't spunk a load of money on players not up to the task.

Whilst we haven't got what we want, we haven't really stopped ourselves or constrained ourselves in the future.

It's very, very thin comfort I know, but at least we have the option of spending properly in future windows without having a load of expensive dead wood to shift and FFP to deal with. We'd obviously need Fosun to loosen the purse strings a little and Jeff to get his shit together.

Imagine spunking £35m on a player who isn't up to the task and may never will be?

Imagine then pleading about FFP and how that means deals can't be done.

Imagine saying that all deals will be done later in the window.

Then imagine you're asked to judge on actions not words.

Now imagine it turns out FFP is an excuse and no deals are done.

How much of a cunt would that person look compared to Everton now?

 

[AndyWolves]

Imagine spunking £35m on a player who isn't up to the task and may never will be?

Imagine then pleading about FFP and how that means deals can't be done.

Imagine saying that all deals will be done later in the window.

Then imagine you're asked to judge on actions not words.

Now imagine it turns out FFP is an excuse and no deals are done.

How much of a cunt would that person look compared to Everton now?

Imagine spunking £m's on lots of players who may never be up to the task. I didn't say anything about the other points you made. The point is we've had a bad window, but it could have been worse as per Everton.

As I said in my post "very, very thin comfort".

 

[Johnny75]

Imagine spunking £m's on lots of players who may never be up to the task. I didn't say anything about the other points you made. The point is we've had a bad window, but it could have been worse as per Everton.

As I said in my post "very, very thin comfort".

Everton's players are up to the task, not potential.

So your comparison is bobbins. The rest of my post followed on from your observation that spunking lots of money up the wall on players is a bad thing.

We did precisely that.

 

[AndyWolves]

Everton's players are up to the task, not potential.

So your comparison is bobbins. The rest of my post followed on from your observation that spunking lots of money up the wall on players is a bad thing.

We did precisely that.

They've spent £440m since 2016 and have an unbalanced squad, they can't fix it due to FFP constraints. That's my point. We won't be in that position. We haven't spent to such a degree that we can't fix it due to FFP constraints.

This window they've signed Rondon, Andros Townsend, Begovic, Andy Longeran and Demari Grey, all of which got thoroughly battered on here as suggestions. They're still weak at full back and can't do anything about it even if they wanted to.

We haven't put ourselves in a position that we can't get out of, whereas I believe Everton have.

 

[Johnny75]

They've spent £440m since 2016 and have an unbalanced squad, they can't fix it due to FFP constraints. That's my point. We won't be in that position. We haven't spent to such a degree that we can't fix it due to FFP constraints.

This window they've signed Rondon, Andros Townsend, Begovic, Andy Longeran and Demari Grey, all of which got thoroughly battered on here as suggestions. They're still weak at full back and can't do anything about it even if they wanted to.

We haven't put ourselves in a position that we can't get out of, whereas I believe Everton have.

About £80m per annum. They're not in trouble with FFP as Swiss Ramble points out, mainly because they're within their revenue percentage for wages and had investment in the recent past.

More importantly those players play in the first team and were first team ready when bought which was my point.

We bought 2 players last season for £50m that were in no way ready and then plead poverty and ask to be judged by actions.

Everton don't sell many players which is their main issue.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That and finding £750m down the back of the sofa for a white elephant. The Everton fan base are convinced all will be well as Alisher Usmanov is going to bankroll them but he already got them through FFP last season by bunging in thirty million to have the option of naming rights for what is currently a big hole next to a sewage works. I rather doubt he is going to do that again.

 

[Johnny75]

That and finding £750m down the back of the sofa for a white elephant. The Everton fan base are convinced all will be well as Alisher Usmanov is going to bankroll them but he already got them through FFP last season by bunging in thirty million to have the option of naming rights for what is currently a big hole next to a sewage works. I rather doubt he is going to do that again.

The city of Liverpool will buy the stadium and lease it back to them I would think.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

What happened (or didn't happen) in the transfer window is history now. The important question now is what will be done in the future. You would hope that Jeff woke up this morning and acknowledged (even privately) that the window did not go to plan. So what can and will he do to rectify things in January and next summer. Will he decide that he needs to a)fire someone, b)hire someone, or c)learn from mistakes and do better next time?
You guys know how the club operates better than I do, I would say that c) is both the worst option and the most likely.

More importantly what does Guo think? How does he judge success and failure? Do you think there is a realistic possibility that Jeff is fired?

 

[Throbber3]

Do you think there is a realistic possibility that Jeff is fired?

I think he is under pressure. He seriously underestimated the feeling from fans on this summer