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Summer 2021 transfer window

Pretty linear progression if you don't agree with the strategy though, no?
Not necessarily, it's not that binary. I still recognise where we are to where we were when Fosun bought us and that at one point all 4 of the main West Mids clubs all had Far Eastern owners with Wolves being the only ones who benefitted from that. In terms of ownership, I'd take the better the devil you know route personally.

None of that means you can't be critical amd question decisions and straetgies, particularly when you are being demonstrably lied to re UEFA FFP.
 
Yeah despite my unhappiness at the moment it's a grumbling unhappiness, still extremely grateful. If they came out and said "For X reason we have no desire to spend this year so there won't be any signings, but we have a 10 year plan we need you to trust us with" - I would, many would lose their minds though.
 
Fucks sake. Nuno didn’t walk. He was fired.
He wasn’t fired. The trajectory of the club had plateaued and now we’ve got foundations of a Premier League Club, the focus is more about developing and generating income from players. Much more long term vision than the first few years where success was a must to accelerate our standing in the pyramid.

Nuno wanted more ready made first team signings to continue the progression but that wasn’t what Fosun wanted. He lost his mojo but it was more a parting of the ways and both sides wanted to move on by the end of the season.
Mendes wanted Nuno into a more ambitious club where he thrives on the here and now. He then had Bruno lined up for us to help develop players with his excellent coaching reputation. He’s now a better fit for where the club is at.
 
Fosun’s original intention was to build a new out of town stadium/casino/hotel/conference centre and they could have paid for that without breaching any financial regulation while increasing a revenue stream significantly. That they have decided against that is likely a reason their timeline/ambition has changed.
I hear this a lot, but it isn’t really true is it. How much would that have cost? £200-300m at least. I’d assume rebuilding the SB and incorporating decent corporate stuff, whilst also increasing capacity would cost under £100m.

How many people want to stay at a hotel on the outskirts of Wolverhampton on non matchdays? How many people want to use a Casino on a non matchday (or a matchday for that matter) in the middle of nowhere? i54 (or wherever) isn’t Las Vegas strip. It would be far more profitable on the current site.

In the absence of one increasing revenue stream to help live within our means - a larger stadium - player trading comes to the fore…and Mendes. It doesnt matter whether Silva is worth £35 million, it was a necessary price to provide revenue to another club. Mir isn’t worth £17 million. Liverpool are paying for Jota on HP but we benefit from the full transfer fee immediately. How much did we pay for Jordan, definitely more than his worth. Transfer fees are all made up by others to circumnavigate financial rules if you know the right people.

We buy to sell and sell to buy. The club retains an element of control in that every player has got their price and they if a player or club wants a move to happen that price will be determined.

Its just a money merry-go-round. Beyond that it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny if you try to use transfer fees to evaluate a player’s worth.

Buy three young players, sell one a year for a profit. Revenue.
Yes the Silva deal was purely to give Porto and Mendes money and we’ve benefitted from his access to players previously. The problem is, we’re not really benefitting anymore. We’re not getting players for cheap and we’re not getting players we couldn’t have signed otherwise.

Brentford buy cheap sell high from good recruitment. To my knowledge there’s no dodgy intermediary taking a massive cut and facilitating it. They are paying what players are worth, making them better/giving them a platform and then selling them for what they are worth. It’s their success at identifying talent that is seeing them win.

Whereas we are locked into a system where we have to do “favours”, or so it seems, so are not in total control of our transfer dealings. We are on someone else’s merry go round and are just a pawn in the game. We need to run the game not be in someone else’s. Until we become less reliant on Mendes we never will.

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That's a more disappointing explanation than him being outright sacked to be honest
Yeah it backs up what I’ve put above. They want us to become a “RB” club, but we rely on an intermediary we pay a massive tax to rather than relying on an extensive successful scouting network. I’m not sure it’s as easy as a midtable PL to bed in young talent as it is in Austria or Germany as one of the richest clubs.
 
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He wasn’t fired. The trajectory of the club had plateaued and now we’ve got foundations of a Premier League Club, the focus is more about developing and generating income from players. Much more long term vision than the first few years where success was a must to accelerate our standing in the pyramid.

Nuno wanted more ready made first team signings to continue the progression but that wasn’t what Fosun wanted. He lost his mojo but it was more a parting of the ways and both sides wanted to move on by the end of the season.
Mendes wanted Nuno into a more ambitious club where he thrives on the here and now. He then had Bruno lined up for us to help develop players with his excellent coaching reputation. He’s now a better fit for where the club is at.
if that means more fabio silva type deals i am not sure i am ready for that.
 
There's a whole lot of guesswork here, reopening discussions few really know the answer to. I'm not convinced Nuno was sacked, but neither am I convinced the owners have had a massive change in strategy. Probably their realised the challenge is greater than they first anticipated, but I suspect they might target cup competitions this year (why else did we give a damn about the Forest game being moved?). I also am curious about whether the Chinese authorities being les welcoming of huge spending companies is on their mind - we won't really know the answer to this but it's not as simple as "oh their money is outside of China" - it's about much more than that (look at Chinese politics and how people have disappeared out of view). Anyway, we can keep guessing, some educated, but neither are we in a terrible place for the year ahead. Still a good time to be a Wolves fan, even if it comes with frustrations and wanting more yet. Some patience with a buy young approach might not go amiss.

That's my guess anyway
 
Nat Williams apparently available for 15 million.......not seen much of him tbh.....too old school? (I.e. crap)
 
He wasn’t fired. The trajectory of the club had plateaued and now we’ve got foundations of a Premier League Club, the focus is more about developing and generating income from players. Much more long term vision than the first few years where success was a must to accelerate our standing in the pyramid.

Nuno wanted more ready made first team signings to continue the progression but that wasn’t what Fosun wanted. He lost his mojo but it was more a parting of the ways and both sides wanted to move on by the end of the season.
Mendes wanted Nuno into a more ambitious club where he thrives on the here and now. He then had Bruno lined up for us to help develop players with his excellent coaching reputation. He’s now a better fit for where the club is at.

So now we've put the 'fired' narrative to bed (which was essentially a 'fact' on the forum till this post), surely we can chill and recognise that there's some fascinating and we'll thought out speculation on these topics but that's all it is. None of us are in possession of the bulk of the facts.

For me, I'm taking it all on board, but not going to hang the best owners we've had in years results wise just yet until there's more concrete evidence and less speculation
 
Don't know if he fired, left or mutual....doesn't really matter now imo, he's gone, 4 seasons is pretty good these days. Thanks Nuno, great memories and time to move on. I like many have doubts about Bruno and Fosun but it's up to them to put those doubts to bed. Time to look forward to the season and see how they get on.
 
Yep, he's not very good. Awkward, often out of position and technically average.

Reminds me a lot of Danny Batth.
Ok, fair enough, think I only saw him play once in a young Liverpool cup team and he did quite well from my memory
 
Not sure if it's Rhys Williams or Nat Phillips, but whichever Liverpool prefered playing a loan player they didn't sign and central midfielders out of position and in doing so losing control of the game rather than play him last season
 
Phillips is better than Williams, but not by a huge amount. Wouldn't want either.

Liverpool seem to get insane fees for shite players they never use.
 
I see no Origi on the bench today for Liverpool (they have filled the bench with an extra keeper). No mention of him being injured or having Covid...so on his way maybe? Can you feel the excitement as it could be us (or more than likely West Ham)
 
I see no Origi on the bench today for Liverpool (they have filled the bench with an extra keeper). No mention of him being injured or having Covid...so on his way maybe? Can you feel the excitement as it could be us (or more than likely West Ham)
Same with the Ox
 
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