Summer 2016 Window Thread

[Deutsch Wolf]

Indeed Mr J Lescott may well be moving on I would think.

Very sad to see what he has become. Don't think I'd be in favour of an emotional return for him now although I thought he was excellent at Albion (unfortunately).

As for Gueye, I can see why on the face of it some would like him, he does try and his style of charging into tackles endears himself to many, however positionally he has very little discipline and he couldn't pass water. Whenever Villa have played him and Carlos Sanchez together it's got to be the worst attempt at possession this side of a Derek Acorah show.

 

[Premier Quality]

In this case, probably what you would call a box-to-box midfielder. In the mold of N'Golo Kante, if you will.

We've got loads of those then - Edwards, coady and Saville never stop running, they just don't have any technical ability.

 

[Alan]

We've got loads of those then - Edwards, coady and Saville never stop running, they just don't have any technical ability.

Exactly my point.

 

[BillyDee]

Whenever Villa have played him and Carlos Sanchez together it's got to be the worst attempt at possession this side of a Derek Acorah show.

I am so stealing that...

 

[Alan]

Very sad to see what he has become. Don't think I'd be in favour of an emotional return for him now although I thought he was excellent at Albion (unfortunately).

As for Gueye, I can see why on the face of it some would like him, he does try and his style of charging into tackles endears himself to many, however positionally he has very little discipline and he couldn't pass water. Whenever Villa have played him and Carlos Sanchez together it's got to be the worst attempt at possession this side of a Derek Acorah show.

The positional sense I think can be coached and his limited range of passing could be offset by being played alongside Price and Evans. I do question being critical of his positional sense a little bit as you don't end up as the 2nd best tackler in the league by being out of position.

As you have pointed out, though, not likely in the least.

 

[YoungWolf]

Huddersfield look set to beat us in race to sign Jack Payne.

Good player, but KJ would ruin him.

 

[Lycan]

Never thought that one looked likely tbh. Not after the fiasco with Nathan Byrne.

 

[wordsleywolf]

Huddersfield look set to beat us in race to sign Jack Payne.

Good player, but KJ would ruin him.

Doesn't matter as he's either shit (l.e. Wolves sign him) or too ambitious for us and we're now below Huddersfield/QPR/Grimsby Town etc in attractiveness and he's a great signing (I.e. he's gone somewhere else).

 

[Mixu]

Or we weren't willing to go mad for him after Jed Wallace came back and looked very useful at the end of the season.

 

[Kenny]

or we were weren't actually after him

(Jez might have phoned up to ask about but that doesn't mean anything)

 

[Lycan]

or we were weren't actually after him

(Jez might have phoned up to ask about but that doesn't mean anything)

This. We're not going to go after another 5 foot nothing winger from the lower leagues when we've got a perfectly good one sat on our bench doing nothing.

 

[YoungWolf]

You say that but we have consistently signed players that clearly don't suit what the manager likes in a footballer... Wallace, Byrne, Mason this season. Jacobs he didn't trust the season before (though I know it's been alleged he had other issues too). It actually wouldn't surprise me if we were in for him.

 

[Kenny]

You say that but we have consistently signed players that clearly don't suit what the manager likes in a footballer... Wallace, Byrne, Mason this season. Jacobs he didn't trust the season before (though I know it's been alleged he had other issues too). It actually wouldn't surprise me if we were in for him.

Jacobs leaving had little to do with his ability.
Wallace certainly suffered from getting crocked in preseason. Maybe the injury and a fairly big move for home meant he struggled to settle in. His loan spell certainly put him back on track and he was used in every game he was fit when he returned.

Byrne could be the same. Went from being first choice to a squad player and his confidence took a knock as he didn't play every week. Might be a load of bollocks but not everything in football is so black and white as there are things we simply do not know about.

Mason is an odd one though. It comes across as a signing to say "look we spent some money". He may well have been a target with the idea of changing the formation....to do that though we needed some other players though.

 

[YoungWolf]

There are so many variables, of course, but I can only judge what I know (which is half the problem, as you point out). It was unfortunate for Wallace at the beginning but Jackett delat with that terribly. Giving hiim 45 minutes here and there and then dropping him for weeks did no one any good. Byrne showed promise in his early games but then never got the run he needed until later in the season (which he was very hit and miss, to be fair). mason is just all round rubbish from Thelwell, Moxey and Jackett.

My point was it wouldn't surprise me if we sign (or try anyway) Payne. We'd then struggle to find a system and style that suited to him. Because the manager is incapable.

 

[prerecordedlive]

Ugh I liked Jacobs. I refuse to believe he had a bad attitude. Don't convince me otherwise. Just another footballer Kenny ruined to me.

 

[GoldFlagFlyingHigh]

Payne is a proper no.10 but very slight. Even if we signed him I couldn't see him starting many games so would be an odd signing when we have Bright & Ronan around to play the odd game in that position. We may sign a no.10 but they will need to be a bit more ready to start a string of games I'd say.

On Mason, for me he is a better version of Keogh who Kenny signed at Millwall. At his best playing off a physical no.9 and I think that's the way he wants to go.
Dicko and a new striker as no.9's
Mason and a new no.10/second striker to operate off the front.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Ugh I liked Jacobs. I refuse to believe he had a bad attitude. Don't convince me otherwise. Just another footballer Kenny ruined to me.

He was constantly late for training

 

[Tony Towner]

A good man manager deals with that though. The little respect I have left for Jackett will be gone if Jacobs has a good season for Wigan playing in his best position next year. He wasn't given an opportunity by us in the Championship despite tearing up Div 1 as a number 10.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I don't know. If it is consistent arsehole behaviour you bin the player off. You are right to question why it became consistent and ask if a better man manager might have nipped it in the bud. However it is at least 80% Jacobs fault he isn't here any more. How he does at Wigan is irrelevant if he was acting the arse here.

 

[Lord Knows]

A good man manager deals with that though. The little respect I have left for Jackett will be gone if Jacobs has a good season for Wigan playing in his best position next year. He wasn't given an opportunity by us in the Championship despite tearing up Div 1 as a number 10.

I heard he was disillusioned but always behaved like a consummate professional. His reward the odd position on Wolves bench on a matchday.