Refereeing question

[FrankMunro-371]

Well said Sir. I think though that with a lot of younger referees, they need experience at open age football. They may do very well with the youngsters, but to get promotion up the ladder they need to referee more challenging games.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I think we are reasonably blessed around here (maybe only with Micros club??) in that the exposure the referees get will see them move up through familiar surroundings until they are reffing an AFC Wulfrunians first team game, and that is a decent tier.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Indeed. Referees at that level would be supply league referees, who would also be assistants at contributory league games. Supply league games are a good testing ground for referees who are looking to step up to referee at national league level. And then it gets really tough.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

As I say, I have high hopes from the guy from the last match, and when Squeeze talked to her colleague who is on the league respect committee we got a lot of very positive feedback about the young man. I really hope he can make a career from it.

 

[Lord Knows]

Free-kicks.

If Wolves had positioned a defender just Beyond the goal line inside the post with a view to him lunging forward to head the ball should the ball come in his direction at what stage would he be playing attackers onside?

 

[darlowolf64]

Free-kicks.

If Wolves had positioned a defender just Beyond the goal line inside the post with a view to him lunging forward to head the ball should the ball come in his direction at what stage would he be playing attackers onside?

Do you mean he is inside the goal and not "on the pitch"? He must be "on the field of play" and technically can be cautioned for leaving the field of play deliberately, without the referees permission. If he is "marking" the post then he is playing the attackers on side at all times.

 

[Lord Knows]

Do you mean he is inside the goal and not "on the pitch"? He must be "on the field of play" and technically can be cautioned for leaving the field of play deliberately, without the referees permission. If he is "marking" the post then he is playing the attackers on side at all times.

Technically if he steps on and off the pitch he can gain an advantage for his team by preventing a scoring opportunity. Is that yellow. In this age of gamesmanship players will take a card for the team if it enables the result they require.
What does the lino do if the player steps on and off the pitch.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

If a player is behind the goal line between the uprights, then the officials would deem that the player was on the field of play.

 

[Lord Knows]

If a player is behind the goal line between the uprights, then the officials would deem that the player was on the field of play.

So a player would have to stand off the pitch the other side of the post before entering the field to a. enter the field to head the free kick away b. Not play the opposition onside.
Can the referee prevent a player moving off the pitch then back on again with anything more than a yellow card, because the player might think the reward is worth it.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Yeah, but it's hard to enforce this rule look at when we played Coventry years back, SEB ran off the pitch by his own momentum and then reentered and scored with his next touch. Cov were fumin iirc.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

It is a difficult one. A player cannot leave or re enter the field of play without the referees permission, otherwise they should be cautioned. So a player deliberately leaving the field of play without permission, and doing the same coming back on could receive two yellow cards, though I don't know if that has ever happened. But if a player goes off the pitch through momentum, then no offence has been committed.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, but it's hard to enforce this rule look at when we played Coventry years back, SEB ran off the pitch by his own momentum and then reentered and scored with his next touch. Cov were fumin iirc.

Cov can go piss up a rope, Iwelumo had a perfectly good goal disallowed in that game, swings and roundabouts.

 

[visage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWVrolNQ4RU

Should have been booked

 

[FrankMunro-371]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWVrolNQ4RU

Should have been booked

Well he definitely left the pitch deliberately...

 

[Lord Knows]

Well he definitely left the pitch deliberately...

Then he re entered the pitch so thats two bookings, do refs ever inforce that rule.

Back to the free kick.

Whats the rule on lifting a team mate.

If you have four in the wall could those players also lift as in Rugby Union another team mate to add extra height just as the free kick is taken to block a shot going over one persons height.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Then he re entered the pitch so thats two bookings, do refs ever inforce that rule.

Back to the free kick.

Whats the rule on lifting a team mate.

If you have four in the wall could those players also lift as in Rugby Union another team mate to add extra height just as the free kick is taken to block a shot going over one persons height.

I am not aware that it breaks any rules, though a referee could deem it as unsporting behaviour. I have never seen it done, but I suppose it has happened.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Question. Goal kick taken by an outfield player who plays the ball to the goalkeeper outside the box who dribbles the ball back into the area and picks it up. Offence or play on?

 

[The Bear]

Passback I'd assume.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Passback I'd assume.

that was my assumption given the following
A goalkeeper may not touch a ball with his hands (or arms) while in his penalty area when the ball has been deliberately kicked (i.e., played with the foot) by a teammate. Nor may the goalkeeper touch a ball with his hands direct from a throw-in by teammate. These situations are commonly known collectively as the "pass back" law.
If the teammate plays the ball back to the goalkeeper with another part of the body, such as the knee, head, etc., the goalkeeper may legally handle this ball. Note, the shin, though technically not part of the foot, may be difficult for a referee or assistant referee to judge. The referee will also have to assess the deliberate nature of any ball that is played back to the goalkeeper, even though it is not directly to the goalkeeper.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Question. Goal kick taken by an outfield player who plays the ball to the goalkeeper outside the box who dribbles the ball back into the area and picks it up. Offence or play on?

An indirect free kick at the position where the goalkeeper picked the ball up.