O'Neil Confirmed

[Wolvensam]

I think it’s more so the 6-0 to Brighton and 5-0 to Arsenal for me - outright surrenders. They seemed to start happening towards the end of the Nuno era, accelerated under Lage, and were still happening on the odd occasion under Lop. That’s the kind of shit O’Neil needs to cut out.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No exaggeration to say that the Brighton "performance" is easily in the worst five I've seen since 1988, and I've seen a hell of a lot of shit. Mrs DW went out at HT and I said "well we can't get any worse" and we did, which is not a great look for an elite manager. Even dumbasses like McGhee could manage something like "don't lose the second half" from that position and retain a bit of pride.

 

[Templeton Peck]

A lot seems to be being made of O’Neil’s dreadful style of football (can’t say I saw it myself apart from the game against us, they were OK but limited) but Lopetegui’s Wolves didn’t exactly blow teams away with scintillating Pep Barcelona-esque stuff. A lot of the time it was fairly turgid and slow.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we’ve scouted a manager who plays a similar style (hopefully with a bit more urgency) and formation as opposed to us ripping it all up and starting again.

We've been playing dull football for at least 2.5 years. It goes back to late Nuno.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we’ve scouted a manager who plays a similar style (hopefully with a bit more urgency) and formation as opposed to us ripping it all up and starting again.

I'd be very surprised if they gave it that much thought given the nature of the appointment and the very limited candidates on the shortlist.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We've been playing dull football for at least 2.5 years. It goes back to late Nuno.

If you want to be critical then we were frequently dull under Awesome Nuno. Like how many first halves were 0-0 and literally nothing happened. All by design and it worked superbly for us, but I don't envy neutrals watching a lot of those games.

I'm not after Keegan 1996 football, as nice as it would be. What I couldn't deal with under Lage in particular was the absence of any threat or gameplan at all.

 

[Wolvensam]

I'd be very surprised if they gave it that much thought given the nature of the appointment and the very limited candidates on the shortlist.

I think Hobbs just has enough credit in the bank for me with his January recruitment. I may be being naive, but we shall see very soon.

 

[Wolvensam]

If you want to be critical then we were frequently dull under Awesome Nuno. Like how many first halves were 0-0 and literally nothing happened. All by design and it worked superbly for us, but I don't envy neutrals watching a lot of those games.

I'm not after Keegan 1996 football, as nice as it would be. What I couldn't deal with under Lage in particular was the absence of any threat or gameplan at all.

Yeah, a lot of Nuno’s excellent football is owed to Jimenez and Jota, and those days where Traore was absolutely sensational.

We’ll see what happens. If O’Neil is decent manager (if), then there’s plenty of talent in this squad to see us finish respectably - Nunes, Cunha, Silva, Sasa, Neto. If you look at the line-ups of West Ham, Everton, Luton, Sheffield United and even Palace yesterday, our starting eleven is probably better than all of those.

 

[malta mick]

Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but hopefully GO will get a tune out of these players which Lop decided were not good enough for him. Yes, he was lied to, but to give up without a ball being kicked is appalling. Lets give GO our support - you never know how the players may find him compared to Lop.

 

[Wolvensam]

Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but hopefully GO will get a tune out of these players which Lop decided were not good enough for him. Yes, he was lied to, but to give up without a ball being kicked is appalling. Lets give GO our support - you never know how the players may find him compared to Lop.

I didn’t like that either particularly. I can appreciate a lot of it was posterising to the board inadvertently to open the cheque book but it’s not the kind of thing you say to the press.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't think he's going to lack support on matchdays (everything else is just noise), Saunders, Zenga and Lage got support at games.

Hoddle a bit less so but that's because he's a divisive character and says stupid things. Even then the South Bank were singing "sign him up" on the final day of 2004/05 when he was out of contract.

 

[Wolvensam]

I think I’m just (stupidly some would say) willing to judge O’Neil on what he does here. Lage won a league with Benfica scoring over 100 goals but he was a clueless prick. Nuno arrived under a cloud of awful football but gave us some of our best years.

We’ll see what happens. It might all end in tears, but I’m honestly expecting us to turn in some slightly better performances just because we’ll actually have a decent striker up top for the first time in about two years.

 

[Alan]

No exaggeration to say that the Brighton "performance" is easily in the worst five I've seen since 1988, and I've seen a hell of a lot of shit. Mrs DW went out at HT and I said "well we can't get any worse" and we did, which is not a great look for an elite manager. Even dumbasses like McGhee could manage something like "don't lose the second half" from that position and retain a bit of pride.

That game almost by itself is what makes me ambivalent about Lop having left (before considering his replacement, anyway).

There’s the conversation about Lop being “elite” or not; I’ve never seen an elite manager have a side turn in a performance as lifeless as that one was from us.

 

[Wolvensam]

It wasn’t the kind of performance a team should be turning in that was in the thick of a relegation battle at the time.

 

[thisisgil]

I'm not after Keegan 1996 football, as nice as it would be.

I am. I would happily take 17th place right now if we played like that.

 

[Loki]

I think I’m just (stupidly some would say) willing to judge O’Neil on what he does here.

It`s not stupid though is it?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I am. I would happily take 17th place right now if we played like that.

Given that Satan doesn't actually exist there's no way you can make that kind of deal.

Lage's weird Twitter fan club often bring up his first three games (when we weren't actually that good but I digress). Personally I was not a fan of losing 1-0 every week.

 

[Johnny75]

That game almost by itself is what makes me ambivalent about Lop having left (before considering his replacement, anyway).

There’s the conversation about Lop being “elite” or not; I’ve never seen an elite manager have a side turn in a performance as lifeless as that one was from us.

Klopp, Arteta, Ancelotti and Wenger have all had heavy defeats and terrible performances.

Villa got demolished yesterday, Emery is a top manager.

It happens.

Jamie O'Hara's performance against Brighton is one of the most disgusting I've ever seen from a professional footballer and he knew it, Doc phoned in plenty in the bad old days.

GoN played dire, turgid, lifeless football last season. I'm not behind him at all, the sooner he's gone the better.

 

[WsWolf]

Klopp, Arteta, Ancelotti and Wenger have all had heavy defeats and terrible performances.

Villa got demolished yesterday, Emery is a top manager.

It happens.

Jamie O'Hara's performance against Brighton is one of the most disgusting I've ever seen from a professional footballer and he knew it, Doc phoned in plenty in the bad old days.

GoN played dire, turgid, lifeless football last season. I'm not behind him at all, the sooner he's gone the better.

If we by some stroke of fortune play well and win tomorrow are you going to be annoyed.

Are you actually hoping we lose, because that would get rid of him sooner?

I didn't even get to that point with Lage but it was close so it's not completely alien to me. Tnterested if you're at that point before a ball is kicked?

 

[Johnny75]

If we by some stroke of fortune play well and win tomorrow are you going to be annoyed.

Are you actually hoping we lose, because that would get rid of him sooner?

I didn't even get to that point with Lage but it was close so it's not completely alien to me. Tnterested if you're at that point before a ball is kicked?

I am. I always hope Wolves win but if it means we get rid of him sooner then I'll take the loss.

It's clear some people are trying to convince themselves GoN was some master stroke and Lop was a terrible manager.

He's here because he was cheap and available not because we poached him from somewhere or had some master plan.

He's going to be terrible and I'm seething with the club for putting themselves in this position.

 

[Kenny]

It's clear some people are trying to convince themselves GoN was some master stroke and Lop was a terrible manager.

I would say it's people thinking "right it's done, will try and grab whatever positives possible from what is a shite situation"

Utterly pointless be constantly angry at a him being here, changes nothing.
If as the majority think, it doesn't work out then it will end fairly quick and then the same sort of process will start again and we will employ from a similar pool of managers.

So , personally it is everything crossed that GON can do something and if I have anger to direct it is aimed at those who chose him.
That could change but that will be down to what he sends the team out to do over the coming weeks.