Loan Watch 2022/2023

[MARKakaJIM]

Hed just come off a really poor loan at Blackburn. I doubt we got any serious bids, whereas I’d be surprised if people aren’t after him this summer.

You’ve also got two teams who play with wing backs who have been promoted

Similar for Sanderson, looked a solid bet for Championship clubs with what he was doing for Blues but tried to move him up the table and his spell at QPR was a bit of a mess. That's got to cast doubts for potential suitors, half a season looking great and half a season struggling to even get in the team, which is the true barometer? So they've both ended up back out there this season restoring reputations.

 

[Alan]

Sounds right to me.

Either way he's showing out well, albeit for a side who are genuinely making easy work of the league at the moment. But that's why I brought up the incident with Matt "Chelsea bought me once, honest" Miazga; Yerson is clearly confident in his knowledge of the game and [FCC manager] Pat Noonan's tactics. He's constantly communicating with Miazga (playing the central CB role), Álvaro Barreal (LWB), and Marco Angulo (left side #6 role), directing them with and without the ball, making sure the spaces are kept reasonably tight. It's all really, really encouraging stuff, IMO.

Taken with an MLS-sized grain of salt, of course.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Similar for Sanderson, looked a solid bet for Championship clubs with what he was doing for Blues but tried to move him up the table and his spell at QPR was a bit of a mess. That's got to cast doubts for potential suitors, half a season looking great and half a season struggling to even get in the team, which is the true barometer? So they've both ended up back out there this season restoring reputations.

Not sure that's true with Sanderson, he took a while to get in and then picked up a stupid red card, but he started pretty much every game from mid-March.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Also thinking back - we recalled Sanderson when Saiss went to AFCON. But Lage decided to go with Toti to fill in instead, then I don't think we were actually allowed to send him back to Blues once we'd done that, he had to go somewhere else (some arcane rule that I can't be bothered looking up).

 

[AndyWolves]

Sounds right to me.

Either way he's showing out well, albeit for a side who are genuinely making easy work of the league at the moment. But that's why I brought up the incident with Matt "Chelsea bought me once, honest" Miazga; Yerson is clearly confident in his knowledge of the game and [FCC manager] Pat Noonan's tactics. He's constantly communicating with Miazga (playing the central CB role), Álvaro Barreal (LWB), and Marco Angulo (left side #6 role), directing them with and without the ball, making sure the spaces are kept reasonably tight. It's all really, really encouraging stuff, IMO.

Taken with an MLS-sized grain of salt, of course.

That's re assuring. Knowing that miagza is a mediocre Championship level CB I was wondering if mosquera would be better that him. Good to hear he is!

 

[Lycan]

Does Miazga speak Spanish? I'm assuming Barreal & Angulo do, that might be a big factor. Huge difference in being able to speak a language conversationally and being able to give/take instructions in a high pressure environment like a professional football game I'd imagine. We might see Mosquera start to flourish over here as his English improves.

Then again as we've already established Spanish people can't understand each other if they're from 2 different towns, how can one person from Colombia and one from Argentina communicate?

 

[Alan]

A Colombian, Argentinian, and Ecuadorian walk into a bar…

I genuinely don’t know if Miazga speaks Spanish, but I have to assume it’s nearly an occupational requirement here. We’ve had more than a few managers in the league over the years who could talk you to death in Spanish but would have sooner died than stumbled through a tactical discussion in English.

Equally, though, I think clubs have ESL programs in place. I know for certain that Charlotte have Adi Malanda doing some pretty rigorous study.

EDIT: Sorry, realized ESL might be American jargon. "English as a Second Language".

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Miazga is of Polish extraction on both sides of his parentage, which I didn't know until I just looked it up. Now there's a fun language. Let's not speak about it.

I still reckon Yerson was way ahead of Kilman in the queue in pre-season 2021. Boly got injured in the very first game and he stepped in. Then he got knacked in the penultimate friendly. I don't think Kilman was remotely in the thinking (as he can't run or jump) until he was literally the last man standing.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I tried to learn a bit of Polish to communicate with the blokes at the factory. Fucking impossible.

 

[The Bear]

I tried to learn a bit of Polish to communicate with the blokes at the factory. Fucking impossible.

I had Polish neighbours for a while and learned maybe one or two phrases just for when I saw them in passing. That was still bloody hard.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

Does Miazga speak Spanish? I'm assuming Barreal & Angulo do, that might be a big factor. Huge difference in being able to speak a language conversationally and being able to give/take instructions in a high pressure environment like a professional football game I'd imagine. We might see Mosquera start to flourish over here as his English improves.

Then again as we've already established Spanish people can't understand each other if they're from 2 different towns, how can one person from Colombia and one from Argentina communicate?

Argentinians and Colombians communicate in the same way as Geordies and Scousers. Of course, there are extremes but generally speaking it's not a problem at all.

 

[Alan]

*woosh*

 

[Keef]

Argentinians and Colombians communicate in the same way as Geordies and Scousers. Of course, there are extremes but generally speaking it's not a problem at all.

You sure? We’ve a Scottish bloke living in Spain on here, he says Spaniards can’t understand regional Spanish in Spain let alone Spanish between two countries

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

On my greek island dialects differ between villages 25/30 miles apart, and we have two guys here, who hardly anyone else in the village understands.
When i am in athens i am often asked where i am from, Ireland say i,
No where are you from in greece?
Clearly i have picked up the dialect from the locals, but i get by wherever.
Must admit understanding in other places apart from the big cities is a challenge.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

You sure? We’ve a Scottish bloke living in Spain on here, he says Spaniards can’t understand regional Spanish in Spain let alone Spanish between two countries

For sure. I understand what you are saying about Spain and the UK as they both have long histories of language development in areas well settled for centuries. It's not quite the same case in say, Colombia, which I know very well. Yes, there are regional expressions eg 'Ave Maria' before every other sentence for Paisas from Medellin. There is also the lack of pronunciation of the letter 's' by Costeños, say on the Atlantic coast from Cartagena to Barranquilla. Overall, though it is no big issue in Latin American pronunciation and dialect and certainly doesn't have the Madrileño lisp or long historic tradition of the colonialist language. I have had no issues chatting with people from Mexico to Argentina and Chile.

 

[Alan]

Mosquera played the 2nd half of FCC's 3-1 win over Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL Championship, ~2nd tier) in the US Open Cup last night. Cincinnati now into the semifinals.

Yerson was, unfortunately, on the pitch for the Pittsburgh goal, but it was a consolation deep, deep into garbage time.

 

[White Wolf]

Never heard the term garbage time before in my life! Is that what Americans call injury time?

 

[Dire Wolf]

Never heard the term garbage time before in my life! Is that what Americans call injury time?

Usually the time when the score is already out of hand and the winning team is merely trying to run out the clock. So basically from about half an hour onwards in our games against Brighton and Arsenal.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Could have used it whenever we went 1-0 down under Lage.

 

[Alan]

Never heard the term garbage time before in my life! Is that what Americans call injury time?

As @Dire Wolf says, basically "garbage time" is a hindsight term for any action that happens after the winning score has been reached, but especially the closing moments of a game that is clearly no longer a contest.

You get this a lot in college football, where the gap in talent (not to mention depth and team size) between schools can be pretty absurd.

Tbf you almost never hear "injury time" here, it's pretty much always "stoppage time" or simply "time added on".