Let's talk about Nuno....

[Law's Bus]

That piece was written by a Villa fan on the wind up, surely.

"Mendes feels it's time for Nuno to make a sidewards step" more like

Step down, surely, given the last few years?

 

[northfield wolf]

What utter Bollocks, and Villa are looking over their shoulder at us, were catching up with them. I think we may run out of games though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Our fans would do well to listen to Nev now. We've had three decent spells in my time; Turner, Mick, Nuno. How does that happen? When the manager is, to a large extent, the club. You see it with the examples he brings up. You don't throw that away because you're bored.

 

[Alan]

I admit freely that my faith in Nuno has been shaken at times this season, but I maintain that he should have 8 games next season at absolute minimum.

If he leaves this summer it should only be under his own power. We would be stupid to get rid of him; I can't think of any other manager I would have in his place who isn't miles out of our league (pardon the pun).

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Eight games, not sure what kind of metric that is.

Realistically he's not even close to the sack and never has been, just our fans being wankers, which happens a hell of a lot.

 

[Alan]

Just because 8 games roughly equates to 2 months, which is an easy, round number, and I think that's just about enough time to know if anything we throw at the wall during the offseason will stick.

No science behind it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Unless we're truly Sheff Utd style dreadful then I can more or less guarantee you Nuno will be here for all of next season.

 

[Tony Towner]

So much depends on what Fosun want to be and what we are. If the whole Top 6 narrative is genuine, then I do think Nuno is under pressure next season, how many games that it is arbitrary, lose the first 6 and he's probably gone, 8 out of 10 the same etc etc. If it's about being a PL stable club then probably not, he has the squad and the pragmatism to always keep us safe

 

[Alan]

That's my thinking, as well. I throw around the "8 games" mark but the only way I'd look at the club after that point and say "yep, sack him" would be if we were both playing awful football and had less than 10 points or something.

But as Tony hinted at, I think it's really hard to gauge what Fosun think the timeline should be for the club returning to Europe. Presumably they do want us back there.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Aye but a club like us can't say that's do or die. Just not possible.

Nuno is the only manager in my time watching us (33 years soon) where I think he gets to pick his own destiny and/or someone might conceivably nick him.

South Korea came in for Mick once but that's about it.

 

[Alan]

Fosun would be far from the first owners to make that mistake, to be fair.

Here's hoping we don't have to contemplate it any more seriously than this in the near future!

 

[Law's Bus]

Aye but a club like us can't say that's do or die. Just not possible.

Nuno is the only manager in my time watching us (33 years soon) where I think he gets to pick his own destiny and/or someone might conceivably nick him.

South Korea came in for Mick once but that's about it.

Strange but true.

We have never had a manager leave to go elsewhere. Not even once since 1877.

 

[Sniffer]

What a stat that is!

 

[Wolvensam]

So much depends on what Fosun want to be and what we are. If the whole Top 6 narrative is genuine, then I do think Nuno is under pressure next season, how many games that it is arbitrary, lose the first 6 and he's probably gone, 8 out of 10 the same etc etc. If it's about being a PL stable club then probably not, he has the squad and the pragmatism to always keep us safe

But is this top 6 aim a long term one, or an immediate one?

Most of our transfer dealings - particularly last summer - would suggest a long term one where we're building a squad of decent quality young players.

 

[Tony Towner]

Doesn't really matter. Lose the first 6 games games next year(we won't), he'll be gone

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Strange but true.

We have never had a manager leave to go elsewhere. Not even once since 1877.

If a manager does well at a club like Wolves, there would never be a reason for him to leave

 

[VanWolfie]

Our fans would do well to listen to Nev now. We've had three decent spells in my time; Turner, Mick, Nuno. How does that happen? When the manager is, to a large extent, the club. You see it with the examples he brings up. You don't throw that away because you're bored.

To this, I would like to add a fourth, Stan Cullis. He managed Wolves from 1948 to 1964, setting the tone for the inauguration of the European Cup with the glorious triumphs of the 1950s, winning the league twice (1957-58, 1958-59) and narrowly coming second to Burnley by one point in 1959-1960 but winning the FA Cup 3-0 against Blackburn. The worst decision John Ireland, the Wolves chairman, made was to sack Cullis in 1964. Can you imagine? Cullis had made Wolves into the internationally renowned club that it still is today and Cullis gets sacked as soon as he no longer wins anything. Now the football played by Wolves under Cullis was very rudimentary compared to what Nuno has produced. So we need to remember two things: 1) it takes time to build a wining team that does it consistently (it took Cullis nearly a decade), and 2) we should not look to get rid of a talented manager when fortunes change in the short term. I find it absolutely incomprehensible that TWF people are talking about whether or not Nuno will continue as Wolves manager. After winning the championship in style, he's had two 7th place finishes in the Premier League and this third season has been beset with calamitous injury problems. Give you head a shake, guys, and don't do a John Ireland. The stand named after him was demolished to make way for the Steve Bull stand and the memory of Ireland was catapulted into oblivion. I hope some of you have noticed how, once he was satisfied that Wolves could not be even possibly caught up in a bottom-of-the-table fight, Nuno has taken the brake off, released the youngsters he's clearly been working with on the training ground, and produced some heartening displays that augur well for the next season and possibly beyond.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Putting numbers on games or points at the point when a manager will be sacked is silly. We don’t know the fixtures. It could be Man City, Chelsea and Man United at home and Spurs, Leicester and Brighton away. No manager is getting sacked for 5 points from that lot. Equally we could get easier fixtures and get 5 points whilst performing like we have too often this year and Nuno would be under pressure.

Wiith a couple of decent signings we will improve significantly and hopefully speculation as to Nuno’s future returns to fears of him going to Arsenal.

 

[Lupo]

To this, I would like to add a fourth, Stan Cullis. He managed Wolves from 1948 to 1964, setting the tone for the inauguration of the European Cup with the glorious triumphs of the 1950s, winning the league twice (1957-58, 1958-59) and narrowly coming second to Burnley by one point in 1959-1960 but winning the FA Cup 3-0 against Blackburn. The worst decision John Ireland, the Wolves chairman, made was to sack Cullis in 1964. Can you imagine? Cullis had made Wolves into the internationally renowned club that it still is today and Cullis gets sacked as soon as he no longer wins anything. Now the football played by Wolves under Cullis was very rudimentary compared to what Nuno has produced. So we need to remember two things: 1) it takes time to build a wining team that does it consistently (it took Cullis nearly a decade), and 2) we should not look to get rid of a talented manager when fortunes change in the short term. I find it absolutely incomprehensible that TWF people are talking about whether or not Nuno will continue as Wolves manager. After winning the championship in style, he's had two 7th place finishes in the Premier League and this third season has been beset with calamitous injury problems. Give you head a shake, guys, and don't do a John Ireland. The stand named after him was demolished to make way for the Steve Bull stand and the memory of Ireland was catapulted into oblivion. I hope some of you have noticed how, once he was satisfied that Wolves could not be even possibly caught up in a bottom-of-the-table fight, Nuno has taken the brake off, released the youngsters he's clearly been working with on the training ground, and produced some heartening displays that augur well for the next season and possibly beyond.

Good post though can I just point out that the John Ireland wasn't demolished to make way for the Steve Bull, it was just renamed

 

[Keef]

didnt someone break their leg in that FA cup final? I'm not 100% sure though, it never gets mentioned.