Leicester City (H) League Cup Rd 3 25.09.2018

[Parkins left foot]

Yes but the finalists since 2005 include
Wigan Bradford Sunderland, Southampton, Aston Villa and Cardiff as well as Swansea and Birmingham as winners. I am sure that the supporters of each of those clubs has very fond memories of their league cup final outing much the same as we reminisce about 1974 and 1980. I am also confident that Wolves full strength 2018 would beat ALL those teams in that list.

Let me put it this way if we were to have won the league cup this season and finished 10th I would be happier than not winning it and qualifying for the europa league in 7th. Same outcome but with a trophy.

Not sure that Wigan or Birmingham fans do - weren't both teams relegated either that season or the one after?

For me that would have had a bigger impact

 

[YoungWolf]

I'm fine with last nights selection, but If we were to draw a PL or a Top Championship side in the FA Cup and we're in or around the same position as we are now in the table I'd be disappointed if that was the side.

I'd agree with this. Unless we really spend big to try and push higher in the league (which would make our second string stronger anyway) I think we would give it a decent go in the FA cup.

 

[Tony Towner]

I know fans of both Parkin and all to a man say that they'd accept everything that's happened in the subsequent years to have that FA/League Cup win.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If we bring Moutinho on for 20 minutes and he gets crocked then it's not a good gamble is it?

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Erm... I seriously doubt that :icon_lol:

You do realise we won the final in 1974 and 1980?

Doubting Langers- a novelty!

I can tell you first hand that I have known losing supporters to feel positive especially if its a rare visit.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

If we bring Moutinho on for 20 minutes and he gets crocked then it's not a good gamble is it?

Chances pof players getting injury? Minimal risk and its the same rosk every game

Chances of a player like Moutinho influencing positively a game like last nights? I would suggest very high. I would have taken the risk. You wouldnt.

 

[Tredman]

If there's even a 1% chance of injury i don't want them playing. Especially Moutinho, he's 32 and that's ancient.

 

[Premier Quality]

If there's even a 1% chance of injury i don't want them playing. Especially Moutinho, he's 32 and that's ancient.

You could apply that to league games and never play him.

If we were to get into Europe this season, would you not play him in Europe either?

 

[Tredman]

You could apply that to league games and never play him.

If we were to get into Europe this season, would you not play him in Europe either?

Not really, as league games are our focus and playing him obviously increases our chances of winning.

I would imagine if/when we get into Europe we will have a bigger and stronger squad and wouldn't be expecting Moutinho to play every game. Very hypothetical anyway.

 

[sycophantia]

No way is Doherty a better defender than Jonny, from what I've seen Jonny is our best defender, positionally, and his timing of tackles is superb. Doherty is more often used as an outlet than Jonny so gets forward more often but that doesn't mean he's better going forward, don't get me wrong I like Doherty and he is playing really well atm but I can't agree he is better than Jonny

 

[Tony Towner]

Dyche dumped the Europa League once he saw the impact on the PL results. Hypothetically we'd play a team like last night, would that beat PAOK? Probably not.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Dyche dumped the Europa League once he saw the impact on the PL results. Hypothetically we'd play a team like last night, would that beat PAOK? Probably not.

It's all a bit of a myth that involvement in Europe materially affects your league form. When Villa, Swansea, Middlesbrough, Southampton, Fulham and Stoke were in the UEFA Cup/Europa League they finished in pretty much the same position as they did the year before. Ipswich went down the year they were in Europe, but a) it was ages ago b) there's always an outlier somewhere and c) who's to say involvement in Europe made any difference either way.

Burnley have been struggling because they have made no improvements whatsoever to last season's starting XI, when they benefited from a historically poor league (they finished between Arsenal and Everton, both of whom sacked their managers because they deemed performances to be well below the required standard).

 

[Tredman]

Stoke binned it off and played a shite team in Valencia as they were struggling in the league IIRC? I remember my clayhead friends being annoyed they paid all that money to watch the game and capitulate.

 

[Tony Towner]

Villa dumped their quarter final? to protect their league position. That was the beginning of the end of MON

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Got all the way through the group stage though. Looks like they'd lost four straight league games by the time they played the second leg, but as they were 13th at that point, nine points clear of the bottom three I'm not quite sure why they played a reserve team. My money would be on it being because Tony Pulis is a prick.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Those teams might not have been good in the league afterwards because they just aren’t very good. Burnley had two weeks off, limited players on international duty, not playing in europe, still came to Molineux and looked like relegation fodder.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Villa dumped their quarter final? to protect their league position. That was the beginning of the end of MON

Wasn't a quarter final, nevertheless they finished 6th in all of 2007/8 (not in Europe at all), 2008/9 (last 32 of the UEFA Cup) and 2009/10 (papped out of Europe by Stefan Maierhofer and co in August). Whether they were in Europe or not made literally no difference to where they finished.

Memory serves that in 2009 MON's stated aim was to push for a CL place, they weren't far off at the time, didn't make it though.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

My view won't resonate well on here but you're getting it anyway

Every single game as a wolves fan my heart wants us to win. Regardless of competition. It's never changed. Already this year we play 8 fewer games than last year. The carabao cup was our most realistic punt at a trophy and that was long odds. I get it's a squad game. Nuno this year is going for the same team whenever possible. I would suggest that if the first team had played last night in its entirety we would still be in. If that happened every round we would still play fewer games than last year.

And I don't know about you lot but I would love a day out at Wembley again. The play off final was in fucking Wales so I shit out there. No if the whole outfield 11 play 48 games and we win the fa cup and finish mid table I am for it! And I reckon the majority players today can do that no probs. Sure we will pick up the odd injury or suspension, Ruddy might play in cups , but there is enough depth to change a couple without effecting performance.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Those teams might not have been good in the league afterwards because they just aren’t very good. Burnley had two weeks off, limited players on international duty, not playing in europe, still came to Molineux and looked like relegation fodder.

For all the teams that looked shite I give you arsenal spurs Chelsea Man utd all have European pedigree this last 15 years.

 

[PuntsWolf]

For all the teams that looked shite I give you arsenal spurs Chelsea Man utd all have European pedigree this last 15 years.

Yes I’m not saying Europe has any correlation with PL performance.

Teams manage to play full strength teams in both the CL and PL and then large rotation in the LC because they have already played 2 games a week every other week. There isn’t really an excuse for teams outside of Europe to do it. I’m not too fussed we didn’t win (would have obviously have preferred to win) and we were probably one or two players away from winning that game easily. Maybe this year we are lacking the depth a bit, but hopefully next season we will have a squad that even if we do choose to rotate will be good enough to win games like that.