Keir Starmer at it again..

[EpsomWolf]

I think I probably should’ve said the left have at times tied themselves up in knots and the right have been successful exploiting that, but aside of that I agree with your post entirely

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Starmer has made some terrible decisions but he was stuffed from the start. He was never going to be left enough for many and was only ever graced with the centre Tory vote on the basis he was seen as relatively safe while the Tories themselves were by any measure unforgivably bad. A sort of lose-lose so to speak.

Problem he and the Left worldwide in general have is the right have tied them up in knots on issues such as gender ideology, immigration and subsequent (lack of) security issues etc etc. Nuanced debates are lost and the immense amount of imagery available seemingly giving credence to those arguments is very powerful and overwhelming to any attempts at perspective. However despicable it is anyone would seek to gain an advantage from the terrible events of Southport, it’s affirmation or devastatingly undermining depending on your point of view.

Difficult to know where to go when attempts to shut down misinformation are presented as dangerous attempts to shut down free speech, or more precisely, stop ‘you’ seeing what ‘they’ don’t want you to see. I think it’s clear Starmer and Co are extremely concerned about further civil unrest and struggling to keep control, and there is some mileage around information that is being withheld because of that. Musk must be rubbing his hands when he’s positioned Starmer between a rock and a hard place with unregulated chaos playing straight into his hands and the only alternative being presented as the Left wanting to control the narrative and inadvertently turning us into a version of communist China.

Pretty clear the right here are bouyed by the events in America right now, and aside of Musk’s dark side manifesting itself in some sort of Trump/Musk implosion I’m not sure where any positives lie at all.

Man preaching about nuanced debates while chucking around left/right stereotypes.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Never easy anyone having to face uncomfortable truths. I’d rather hear why the future is bright because the left are in the ascendancy as it doesn’t look very much like that to me at the moment.

 

[Derby Wolf]

I'm pretty sure the farming climbdown is around the corner too now that the supermarkets have hypocritically all of a sudden become pro farmer after decades of running them into the ground.

I don't know if it made local news round our way but farmers blockaded all of our car parks last weekend in Nottingham and Leicester. If they did this across a number of towns and cities and with each of the Big Six supermarkets it might explain supermarkets now throwing in with the NFU

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Never easy anyone having to face uncomfortable truths. I’d rather hear why the future is bright because the left are in the ascendancy as it doesn’t look very much like that to me at the moment.

Patronisng much?

 

[Templeton Peck]

Left wing views get no kind of platform in the MSM. Look at the coverage the Greens get compared to Reform and they're not even that left wing ffs. People barely know who their leaders are yet that cunt Farage has been splashed everywhere for 20 years.

'The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum....'

 

[Tony Towner]

On Starmer / the Government because despite the majority they didn't come in on a wave of populism there's not being a honeymoon period. I don't think there's a revenue raising mechanic that wouldn't have seen the negative blowback which has happened. Take the NI raise as an example, if that had been raised at source then it would have been a tax on working people and theyd have been hammered for it, they do it on employers who are more likely to be able to afford it and it allows the likes of Sainsbury's to use it as a reason for job cuts despite making £137m after tax last year. If they are guilty of anything then it's to naively think big businesses like that would just take the hit.

The whole farming thing has been weaponised. I think it's clunky, but the original reason for doing it was a sound one which most would get behind, however it's been hijacked by a lot of whataboutery and bad faith arguments, when relatively few genuine people will be impacted once the mitigating provisions are considered.

On top of that you have social media which is only going to get worse and full of opportunists with amplified voices. What once upon a time would be seen as a crank now has a voice, platform and audience. I've seen numerous 'think' pieces in the last few weeks on how he's the worst Prime Minister we've ever had, when he's not the worst we've had this year. Even now with all the Southport information out there, there's a lot of people believing that there was a cover up and information about an Islamist plot has been suppressed by the Government, even though the judge said he wasn't motivated by any particular ideology. So much is palpable rubbish, but when such a large percentage of the electorate gets their information from soundbites it sticks.

In summary I think he's fucked whatever he does media/social media wise. If I were him I'd implement the policies I believe in, ignore any noise, don't u turn on anything unless you think it's a genuine mistake. You aren't going to win, so don't try to, the Commons majority will enable him to enact whatever he likes. Do it and trust that in 4 years time the results lead to a strong economy and stand for the next GE on that platform.

 

[Templeton Peck]

All of Starmer’s ‘betrayals’ and U-turns as Labour faces Waspi women backlash

The Independent looks at all the times Sir Keir Starmer has let voters down or outright U-turned on his promises on the journey from Labour leader to prime minister

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Dire Wolf]

Starmer's democratic government...

 

[Hereford Wolf]

Labour have been so disappointing. I’ve waited years for them to get back into power and they are a mess.
They’ve lost me.

‘Move closer to Europe – not Trump’ voters tell Starmer in major UK poll
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ll-starmer-in-major-uk-poll?CMP=share_btn_url

 

[Templeton Peck]

Going exactly as expected for me. 5 years of inertia followed by fascism.