Everton 4-0 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Alan]

Fuck that cat kicker

Get Kendrick on his ass

 

[prawnking]

I mean just think for a minute how fucking easy it is to at least vaguely try to thwart a Sean Dyche team as we enter 2025. It's not like you don't have any warning of what's coming.

Don't give away set pieces. If you must, mark up properly. Don't pick gutless shells of players who quite obviously won't fancy it. Be prepared for a scrap. Get at the obvious weak links they have that he puts in the team every week because they're honest lads who work hard.

We of course did the opposite to all that.

You couldn't sound off about all that on MNF though.

GON too smart and up-and-coming to do all that boring, simple stuff.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Lemina doesn’t seem a good captain, certainly not in a backs against the wall situation. Too emotional, too sulky. Total opposite of a Coady for example.

Lemina can’t even lead by example skill/effort wise as he’s been shoe horned everywhere and isn’t in the team on merit. Right real mess getting him in the team has and is causing.

Were a team with no backbone though. Like who are the alternatives? Keeper is a clown and a hot head fighting the crowd. Dawson the only option of the CBs but he looks finished. Semedo a sheepish player, RAN too laid back andd does what he wants, nothing like captain material. Gomes a young kid. Cunha your only other option and he’s not remotely captain material either.

The only player in the entire squad I’d back to step up when the chips are down is Tommy Doyle, and he can’t get near a start. How have we assembled a team of mentally and physically weak players. And it’s not like they have great technical ability to compensate. Guedes, Sarabia, Hwang, Forbs, R Gomes, Bellegarde all just . Nothing player.

Agree with this, and I think it's something that we as fans often under appreciate as it's not tangible to us, but we've been consistently selling our leaders for years now.

Whilst I didn't consider Kilman captain material, we have sold our captain 3 years running, that can not be good for team cohesion at all (Coady, Neves and Kilman).

We released other leaders/strong characters before we should have too. Saiss for one.

 

[SSB]

What a load of crap. He sulked over patted a few players on the bottom and then turned without even acknowledging the fans. So the below is a lie from him.


From BBC Sport

"I go over there to see them because I appreciate every single one of the Wolves fanbase," said O'Neil. "They have given me unbelievable support since I arrived at the football club.

"We enjoyed that together, so now that it is tough I am happy to go over there and look them right in the face and take any criticism they want to throw at me. I accept responsibility for my part in that and that will not change how I feel about them and what they have given me over the last 15 months."

 

[prawnking]

"We enjoyed that together, so now that it is tough

You'd think it being 'tough' was a new thing, rather than a pattern of leaking goals, chaos and defeats that stretches back well into last season

 

[1986]

I'd takes Moyes over Potter - if those were the options .

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I'd takes Moyes over Potter - if those were the options .

Yeah I think Potter would be a better long term option if we were mid table, but I think Moyes would have more of an effect in the short term given our position.

 

[Kenny]

We will throw everything at one man....come up short and put the U21 coaches in charge

 

[prawnking]

I think the days of an aspirational manager are gone for now, so I'd be happy with an experienced head who isn't a total dinosaur or wanker, so Moyes would be alright.

Just got to stay up

 

[The Bear]

Moyes wouldn't necessarily sort our leaky defence out though.

 

[Mel Evo]

Yeah I think Potter would be a better long term option if we were mid table, but I think Moyes would have more of an effect in the short term given our position.

I’d be absolutely over the moon with either compared to where we are right now.

 

[Del Woppio]

I just asked chat GPT who it thinks should be the next wolves manager, with the brief of a young up and coming manager who plays exciting football and would relish the step into the Premier League at club like Wolves:


Here are some exciting young managerial options for Wolves, focusing on coaches known for dynamic, attacking football:

1. Rúben Amorim
   Currently at Sporting CP, Amorim has achieved significant success, including winning the Portuguese league title for the first time in 19 years. His teams are known for intelligent possession-based football combined with tactical pragmatism. He could be an ideal choice to bring flair and consistency to Wolves
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2. Julian Nagelsmann
   A standout in modern football management, Nagelsmann has a strong record at clubs like Hoffenheim, RB Leipzig, and Bayern Munich. Known for innovative tactics and an aggressive style of play, he is currently leading the German national team. While a high-profile target, he would bring an ambitious vision to Wolves
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3. Thiago Motta
   Now managing Bologna, Motta has impressed with his innovative and tactical flexibility, guiding his team to a Champions League spot. His focus on empowering players and maximizing squad potential makes him a great option for a club looking to establish an exciting football identity
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4. Roberto De Zerbi
   With experience revitalizing teams like Sassuolo and Brighton, De Zerbi's attacking style and emphasis on intricate build-up play make him a thrilling prospect. His track record in overachieving with limited resources aligns well with Wolves' potential
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5. Vincent Kompany
   After transforming Burnley with an attacking approach in the Championship, Kompany moved to Bayern Munich. Though a long shot due to his current role, he is a manager with a modern philosophy and proven adaptability
   Football Effect

 

[YoungWolf]

I asked who we should appoint in order to stay up

If Wolverhampton Wanderers sack Gary O’Neil and aim to avoid relegation from the Premier League, their next managerial appointment will need to be someone who can stabilize the squad, motivate players, and improve results quickly. Here are some realistic and strategic options they could consider:





1. Julen Lopetegui (Reappointment)





• Why? Lopetegui left Wolves before the season started due to disagreements over transfer strategy but performed well last season, guiding them to safety after inheriting a struggling side. If bridges can be rebuilt, he knows the squad and has proven he can succeed in this context.


• Style: Organized defensively, tactically astute, and good at motivating players under pressure.





2. Graham Potter





• Why? Potter is highly regarded for his work at Brighton, where he developed an attractive, possession-based style while operating on a limited budget. He struggled at Chelsea but could thrive at a club with less pressure and expectations like Wolves.


• Style: Builds cohesive teams with clear tactical identities, which could help Wolves find consistency.





3. Ralph Hasenhüttl





• Why? Hasenhüttl has Premier League experience with Southampton, where he showed an ability to compete with limited resources. He is known for instilling high-intensity pressing football, which could energize Wolves.


• Style: Fast-paced, counter-pressing approach, which suits Wolves’ mobile attackers like Pedro Neto and Matheus Cunha.





4. Marcelo Gallardo





• Why? Gallardo is an exciting name with a stellar reputation from his time at River Plate, where he won multiple trophies playing dynamic, attacking football. Though unproven in Europe, Wolves could take a bold step by appointing him.


• Style: Tactical flexibility and high intensity, potentially revitalizing Wolves’ attacking play.





5. Sean Dyche (If Available)





• Why? If Everton’s situation changes, Dyche could be a perfect fit for Wolves. He specializes in building defensively solid teams capable of grinding out results to avoid relegation.


• Style: Defensive resilience and pragmatic, results-driven football.





6. Nuno Espírito Santo (Return)





• Why? Nuno had great success during his first stint at Wolves, leading them to promotion and back-to-back seventh-place finishes in the Premier League. His familiarity with the club’s structure and philosophy makes him a viable option.


• Style: Organized defensively with counter-attacking flair, which aligns with Wolves’ DNA.





7. Ange Postecoglou (Ambitious Option)





• Why? Tottenham’s success under Postecoglou has raised his profile, but Wolves might target a coach with a similar vision from the same mold if not Ange directly. Wolves could explore someone like Kjetil Knutsen (Bodø/Glimt).


• Style: Possession-focused, attacking football that prioritizes pressing and creativity.





8. Chris Wilder





• Why? While less glamorous, Wilder’s experience with Sheffield United, where he overachieved using an innovative overlapping center-back system, could be a quick fix to inject energy into the squad.


• Style: Aggressive, organized football that can adapt to limited resources.





Key Factors to Consider:





• Short-term Impact: Someone like Dyche or Nuno would stabilize the squad and focus on avoiding relegation immediately.


• Long-term Vision: Potter or Gallardo would offer a foundation for sustained growth but might need more time.


• Squad Compatibility: Wolves’ players suit counter-attacking football, so hiring a manager with similar principles (like Lopetegui or Nuno) might be the safest bet.





Given Wolves’ need for immediate results to avoid relegation, Julen Lopetegui (if he’s willing to return) or Ralph Hasenhüttl seem like the most logical choices. Both combine Premier League experience with a clear tactical plan to maximize the existing squad’s potential.

 

[prawnking]

Moyes wouldn't necessarily sort our leaky defence out though.

It would be literally impossible for him not to improve on what GON does

 

[SSB]

Thing is the vitriol from the crowd last night wasn’t even that bad.

It was more pantomime than pitchforks. The fans had resigned themselves to our fate.

“Gary, Gary, what’s the score?” became more amusing as the goal tally increased.

I think yesterday’s game must have set the record for the repertoire of chants we got through.

Nuno, Raul, Neves, Moutinho, Coady, Elokobi, Dicko, Afobe, Sako, Cutrone and even Fabio Silva got their songs sung.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Thing is the vitriol from the crowd last night wasn’t even that bad.

It was more pantomime than pitchforks. The fans had resigned themselves to our fate.

“Gary, Gary, what’s the score?” became more amusing as the goal tally increased.

I think yesterday’s game must have set the record for the repertoire of chants we got through.

Nuno, Raul, Neves, Moutinho, Coady, Elokobi, Dicko, Afobe, Sako, Cutrone and even Fabio Silva got their songs sung.

Yeah quite a bit of gallows humour too.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Shi loves a bit of ChatGPT too, as we've seen from his E and S articles.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Moyes is a cunt. I'd take him over O'Neil but he wouldn't be near the top of my list for potential replacements.

We'll end up with Cooper anyway

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Moyes is a cunt. I'd take him over O'Neil but he wouldn't be near the top of my list for potential replacements.

We'll end up with Cooper anyway

Why is Moyes a cunt?

Who is realistic that you'd like us to get in?

 

[prawnking]

Ralph Hasenhüttl

Would anyone take Ralph?

I always struggled with how tight he wore his trackie bottoms tbh