Coronavirus

[BillyDee]

Covid: London to move into tier 3 as infections rise

Parts of Essex and Hertfordshire will also face the toughest restrictions, the health secretary says.

www.bbc.co.uk

London confirmed T3. Only parts of Essex and Herts, so a break from the whole county approach.

 

[sycophantia]

That's the thing though - if people stuck to the indoor rules then that type of outdoor activity should be fine. Can't say I blame you at all - starting to wish we had been doing the same

i know they have to 'draw lines' somewhere but it feels silly that we were technically breaking the rules with family who I have complete trust in to be sensible but it would be ok to spend an hour in Asda rubbing shoulders (no-one seems to pay attention to social distancing in supermarkets) with complete strangers who could all be carriers

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We went to town last weekend. Got to be 50 people queuing outside Primark, not all wearing masks, not much distancing going on.

Went into a Costa, so while we can stand indoors and queue for as long as it takes, we can't sit in there, we can't sit on the seats they normally have outside, fine to sit right next to each other on the wall five yards away though.

It's all fucking ridiculous.

 

[Kenny]

So it seems a lot of the issues in London are being caused by the schools. Apart from a couple where councils have stepped in, they are keeping them open.
If that is where the issues are, close them a week early FFS

 

[Parkins left foot]

In reality down here we should be dropped into tier 1 (we won't be) as case numbers are roughly on a par with Cornwall.

They keep lumping Bournemouth & Poole in with the rest of Dorset even though they are different Local Authority areas which brings the numbers well up.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

London going T3 on Wednesday.

So the darts will have no fans at Ally Pally from then, but it starts tomorrow and if you have a ticket you can still go.

Sorry, does the virus know which day of the fucking week it is? It either needs closing or not, you morons.

 

[Kenny]

Trying to catch the virus out and presuming it will visit in fancy dress and hoping it missed the news they banned it for this year?

 

[AndyWolves]

The government haven't been great but the absolution of responsibility people are taking really frustrates me.

Not directed at anyone on here!

 

[Keef]

That might be due to the government making the rules, ignoring the rules, not knowing what to do to get areas out of lockdown, giving a week advance notice of impending lockdowns, ie pubs close at 11pm Wednesday, causing loads of people to go out on the piss for a last hurrah, then hanging about for transport home, U turning on stuff, in the end nobody knows what's going on, what to do, so everyone just does what they normally do.
Wales was in lockdown with no travel from England, I went for a job interview and practical assessment surely I should have been told don't bother, and the job advertised after or when the pandemic eases off?
I still distance as best I can in shops, wear my mask and get funny looks for wearing one, most seem to have given up wearing them, or just wear them wrong, because Covid doesn't enter your uncovered nose if you wear a mask, who knew?

 

[AndyWolves]

That might be due to the government making the rules, ignoring the rules, not knowing what to do to get areas out of lockdown, giving a week advance notice of impending lockdowns, ie pubs close at 11pm Wednesday, causing loads of people to go out on the piss for a last hurrah, then hanging about for transport home, U turning on stuff, in the end nobody knows what's going on, what to do, so everyone just does what they normally do.
Wales was in lockdown with no travel from England, I went for a job interview and practical assessment surely I should have been told don't bother, and the job advertised after or when the pandemic eases off?
I still distance as best I can in shops, wear my mask and get funny looks for wearing one, most seem to have given up wearing them, or just wear them wrong, because Covid doesn't enter your uncovered nose if you wear a mask, who knew?

The bottom paragraph is what im talking about, that's on individuals to do those things properly. Going out on the piss in the midst of a pandemic isn't a great idea either, to me it seems perfectly rational to not do it.

 

[lemonjelly]

So it seems a lot of the issues in London are being caused by the schools. Apart from a couple where councils have stepped in, they are keeping them open.
If that is where the issues are, close them a week early FFS

government ministers have written to heads of schools who intended to go online for this week advising they will take action under the emergency regulations against any heads closing schools.

am interested in merkels comments that christmas shopping is responsible for the spike germany is seeing. if there is substance to that being a significant cause (and DW's post above offers some support to this view) then reopening all shops etc since dec 5th is a risky strategy, as it creates a lot of environments for cross contamination.

Personally, we're now self isolating voluntarily for 2 weeks up to xmas day, as this will allow my parents to visit for xmas dinner. I'll be wfh all week, and the week after we'll stay home. did a big shop last weekend, and will endeavour to make everything last. stepdaughter has offered to pick up milk/bread if we need it. during this 2 weeks, we'll be missing 2 birthdays - children of the stepkids have birthdays next week. Thankfully, they understand that I haven't seen my folks for months, and it'll be easter at best before I do so again, so stepkids are being very reasonable.

 

[Trips]

We have made the decision to not see family this christmas. We usually go to the in laws Xmas Day evening and my folks on Boxing Day - but my Mom is high risk and my in laws are in their 70's. Not worth the risk in the slightest. Obviously a more difficult decision for people who live alone, but just me, the wife and kids this year for me.

 

[AndyWolves]

We have made the decision to not see family this christmas. We usually go to the in laws Xmas Day evening and my folks on Boxing Day - but my Mom is high risk and my in laws are in their 70's. Not worth the risk in the slightest. Obviously a more difficult decision for people who live alone, but just me, the wife and kids this year for me.

Pretty similar to us, we're waiting on a test for one of our kids so we could be isolating until after Xmas anyway

 

[Parkins left foot]

We have made the decision to not see family this christmas. We usually go to the in laws Xmas Day evening and my folks on Boxing Day - but my Mom is high risk and my in laws are in their 70's. Not worth the risk in the slightest. Obviously a more difficult decision for people who live alone, but just me, the wife and kids this year for me.

Not seeing my family this year - will wait till 2021 and try and have a party then.

Am on my own, though not all of Christmas day as am helping to coordinate the town Christmas lunch (distanced & driven out to those receiving) so will still have a community around me.

 

[Tony Towner]

London going T3 on Wednesday.

So the darts will have no fans at Ally Pally from then, but it starts tomorrow and if you have a ticket you can still go.

Sorry, does the virus know which day of the fucking week it is? It either needs closing or not, you morons.

World Snooker Champs was the same. Spectators for the first day, then closed until the final

 

[Tredman]

Excellent, and very worrying, thread here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338587454878736384

 

[Sniffer]

Steep rises in schools. Local councils do the sensible thing and close 4 days early. The education secretary takes them to court. Utter madness.

 

[sycophantia]

It appears part of the steep increase could be down to a new variant of the disease.. ffs

 

[AndyWolves]

Steep rises in schools. Local councils do the sensible thing and close 4 days early. The education secretary takes them to court. Utter madness.

It's mental, last few days before Xmas and the schools will stay open for vulnerable kids. There was going to remote learning but Gavlar decides it isn't good enough

 

[Kenny]

Show offs with their crowds, pubs open and meeting people

New Zealand lifts all Covid restrictions, declaring the nation virus-free

PM Jacinda Ardern says she "did a little dance" as it was confirmed NZ had no active virus cases.

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