Coronavirus

[Rui_CostCo]

Hope you're right but that document however it is interpreted has been drawn up by the UN. Sustainable suggests what we have now is not sustainable.

The World is on the cusp of creating it's first Trillionaire, achieved during a global economic crisis. You might start to hear the old phrase Caring Capitalism a bit more, but it's not going anywhere in a hurry.

 

[Papper]

So it's going to be like Logan's run then,anyone over 34 cops it,unless you're Michael York and Jenny Agutter and you escape out the bio dome we live in.
You say its coming soon,how soon is soon,next week,month,year,decade? Or is it going to be like the kalergi plan? which is the shittest plan ever for world domination,it's taken nearly a century for not much change

I'm all for the collective as long as you haven't got the few who have very nice position in the collective and a dacha. If the new collective involves corporations like Monsanto, the Big Pharma and world banks then we've got a hell of a problem. The 1% will carry on as normal while the rest of us get merged into one. Not needed to consume just to sustain. A form of Corporate Fascism. If life loses it's aspiration, it's free will ie enough money to buy a house, get a nice car and have a good holiday once or twice a year then that's the stuff of nightmares. Hey' I'm probably getting paranoid ...

 

[machin05]

The Daily Mail front page is absolutely disgusting.

Brandon Lewis also thinks 5 and 6 year olds are able to social distance at school. He is either lying to fit his government's agenda or he has never been in a class of 5 and 6 years olds.

Good to see the campaign growing to throw teachers under the bus.

Stupid thing is most teachers haven't actually stopped working and have had to adapt to teaching from home remotely. Also schools are actually still open for vulnerable and key worker children with teaching and SLT staff on rota to come on to supervise. They're already risking their health to do this.

 

[AndyWolves]

The estimated R rate. Government figures on numbers of confirmed cases, the basis for the assumptions don't include the people who report symptoms but are not being tested as clearly, if you haven't tested positive you can't be included. At the other end of the scale, people who have been offered a free test that have never exhibited symptoms or had any major concern they've been exposed to the virus will be included. Official Government statistics and how they're being calculated is far from transparent.

This sounds bonkers, do you have any evidence?

 

[Papper]

Stupid thing is most teachers haven't actually stopped working and have had to adapt to teaching from home remotely. Also schools are actually still open for vulnerable and key worker children with teaching and SLT staff on rota to come on to supervise. They're already risking their health to do this.

If children can't go to school it means many people are not able to go to work. Then they possibly lose their jobs. Without a vaccine everybody who leaves the house is risking their life.

 

[AndyWolves]

I'd still like to understand why the R is so much lower in London than elsewhere

London is clearly the most densely populated part of the UK

 

[AndyWolves]

If children can't go to school it means many people are not able to go to work. Then they possibly lose their jobs. Without a vaccine everybody who leaves the house is risking their life.

Are you overplaying the dangers somewhat?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I'd still like to understand why the R is so much lower in London than elsewhere

London is clearly the most densely populated part of the UK

My assumption was that it has rattled through the majority of the London population already.

 

[AndyWolves]

My assumption was that it has rattled through the majority of the London population already.

There's a term for that I think

 

[Papper]

Are you overplaying the dangers somewhat?

So what happens if you are called back into work and have nobody to look after the children because they are not allowed to go to school?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Johnson has already said that the government expects employers to show understanding in that specific situation.

 

[Papper]

Johnson has already said that the government expects employers to show understanding in that specific situation.

So the business continues to pay their wages indefinately (schools aren't safe and no sign of a vaccine) and also has to employ somebody else to do the work?

That could potentially ruin many businesses.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Stupid thing is most teachers haven't actually stopped working and have had to adapt to teaching from home remotely. Also schools are actually still open for vulnerable and key worker children with teaching and SLT staff on rota to come on to supervise. They're already risking their health to do this.

Yeah, my wife has been on a rota since the lockdown began. Thankfully for her, her school hasn't had that many children in so she hasn't had to go in very often but her head has been virtually every day. Her head is also pulling her hair out over the lack of help/guidance from the government over reopening.

 

[Del Woppio]

Aye, and they’ll understand it's not their problem and you're coming into work or getting sacked

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

There's a term for that I think

Indeed...

 

[AndyWolves]

So what happens if you are called back into work and have nobody to look after the children because they are not allowed to go to school?

The dangers to school children and the dangers of leaving your house

 

[Papper]

Aye, and they’ll understand it's not their problem and you're coming into work or getting sacked

Or Johnson pays their wages until a vaccine is found and the schools are safe.

 

[Papper]

The dangers to school children and the dangers of leaving your house

The answer is to teach the children yourself and claim universal credit while you stop inside until a vaccine is available?

Then Johnson can find them somewhere to live when the house gets repossessed.

 

[AndyWolves]

The answer is to teach the children yourself and claim universal credit while you stop inside until a vaccine is available?

Then Johnson can find them somewhere to live when the house gets repossessed.

No, the answer is to send primary school children to school.

The damage to children, or anyone, by staying home for 12-18 months will be huge before taking economic considerations into account

 

[Papper]

No, the answer is to send primary school children to school.

The damage to children, or anyone, by staying home for 12-18 months will be huge before taking economic considerations into account

Quite agree but what if the schools are not safe and teachers won't go? How do you socially distance in a school?

I'm sure you cannot leave a child under fourteen on their own.