Coronavirus

[Tredman]

Yep, it’s more solid than other moisturisers. Bit like a smooth cottage cheese.

 

[arklowolf]

I saw this in a paper I was reading :-

Results: Of 133 patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection, there were 44 moderate cases, 52 severe cases, and 37 critical cases with no significant difference of gender and age among three subgroups. Overall, the positive ratio in IgM antibody test was higher than in RT-PCR detection. In RT-PCR detection, the positive ratio was 65.91%, 71.15%, and 67.57% in moderate, severe, and critical cases, respectively. Whereas, the positive ratio of IgM/IgG antibody detection in patients was 79.55%/93.18%, 82.69%/100%, and 72.97%/97.30% in moderate, severe, and critical cases, respectively. Moreover, the concentrations of antibodies were also measured in three subgroups.

We're missing 1 in 3 positives from our testing. I am absolutely convinced that far more people have this than we think, by orders of magnitude - possibly even more than 100 times when you consider that the infection rate is potentially thought to be up near 4-6

Don't want to appear thick, but I've read this three times and still don't understand what it means.
Can't put it in plain English for this thicko can you?

 

[t3ch]

Does it dry quickly because I can’t stand the greasy ones.

it's not 'greasy' but it's going to linger a bit longer than your more liquidy moisturizer, as it's a thick. it looks like a puck of shaving cream, if thoroughly wetted.

like I said though, even if you don't want to deal with that, I've had better luck with 1x application of that stuff at night, versus all-day application of shittier quick-dry moisturizers. you can probably find better, but only at 3-4x the price.

 

[AndyWolves]

Don't want to appear thick, but I've read this three times and still don't understand what it means.
Can't put it in plain English for this thicko can you?

It's a comparison between the existing tests and antibody tests

The long and the short of it is that the current tests only report 2/3 when someone has Covid19. They miss the other 1/3.

The new antibody tests look to be more accurate

I'm not a scientist though, just someone who Google's a lot

 

[arklowolf]

It's a comparison between the existing tests and antibody tests

The long and the short of it is that the current tests only report 2/3 when someone has Covid19. They miss the other 1/3.

The new antibody tests look to be more accurate

I'm not a scientist though, just someone who Google's a lot

Oh, ok thanks.

 

[Alan]

It's a comparison between the existing tests and antibody tests

The long and the short of it is that the current tests only report 2/3 when someone has Covid19. They miss the other 1/3.

The new antibody tests look to be more accurate

I'm not a scientist though, just someone who Google's a lot

The secret is that right now, the scientists are also Googling a lot :icon_wink:

 

[Tony Towner]

Just saw the photo of the Surgeon from Derby and Burton hospitals who died at the weekend. I met him on holiday a couple of years ago, only chatted for 15 minutes or so, but seemed a nice guy. RIP Mr El-Hawrani

 

[Tredman]

I saw this in a paper I was reading :-

Results: Of 133 patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection, there were 44 moderate cases, 52 severe cases, and 37 critical cases with no significant difference of gender and age among three subgroups. Overall, the positive ratio in IgM antibody test was higher than in RT-PCR detection. In RT-PCR detection, the positive ratio was 65.91%, 71.15%, and 67.57% in moderate, severe, and critical cases, respectively. Whereas, the positive ratio of IgM/IgG antibody detection in patients was 79.55%/93.18%, 82.69%/100%, and 72.97%/97.30% in moderate, severe, and critical cases, respectively. Moreover, the concentrations of antibodies were also measured in three subgroups.

We're missing 1 in 3 positives from our testing. I am absolutely convinced that far more people have this than we think, by orders of magnitude - possibly even more than 100 times when you consider that the infection rate is potentially thought to be up near 4-6

Perhaps a more accurate approximation of wider infection rates here:

https://twitter.com/stefanfschubert/status/1244716276712378376?s=21

 

[AndyWolves]

Perhaps a more accurate approximation of wider infection rates here:

https://twitter.com/stefanfschubert/status/1244716276712378376?s=21

That equates to about 1.8m people

80 times what our current confirmed cases is

 

[The Bear]

Honest wage for honest work. Nowt wrong with that.



In other news, anyone on here with a strong hand moisturiser game that can recommend a decent product? All this extra long hand washing is turning my mitts to ash and they're starting to sting/itch.

I use Aveeno products. They have that Colloidal Oatmeal stuff in it which is very good for the skin and various skin conditions. It makes your skin feel quite silky smooth after a few applications. They do moisturisers and also shower and bath stuff which is also really good.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aveeno-Dai...02289&refinements=p_89:Aveeno&s=beauty&sr=1-4

 

[Alan]

Trump is really, really pissing me off with this hydroxychloroquine bullshit.

How about make sure the drug works before you divert untold resources to it, you fucking simp?

 

[lemonjelly]

If theres any good that comes out of this horrible mess, it must be that the world stands up to China regard the trade in illegal wildlife. Too long the International Community has turned a blind eye to Chinas greed in trading endangered animals, the extinction of species driven by their medicine and tradition needs to be addressed.

If it was caused by the Pangolin, or indeed a bat then more needs to be done by the international community to address this.

Dunno if this is the story you were referring to:
https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1244250401488220161

 

[lemonjelly]

so my employer released a statement today saying they have set up a lab in the past week that can do 25000 c-19 tests per day.
government have today said it will take til mid april to achieve 25000 per day.

no idea who or what to believe anymore.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

One tip - the answer to "who to believe" will not be "Donald Trump"

 

[lemonjelly]

the following from a guardian article was also quite worrying

A reintroduction of the epidemic is certainly possible; it’s beginning to happen in Hong Kong. Hong Kong successfully controlled the epidemic early on, and they started relaxing some of their restrictions. Now they’re beginning to see new cases reappear.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/is-coronavirus-seasonal-summer

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

One tip - the answer to "who to believe" will not be "Donald Trump"

He's just spent part of his press conference unboxing a testing kit like the world's worst QVC presenter.

I'd find it amusing, but y'know.

 

[Del Woppio]

Thing is, unless you ban incomings from basically everywhere, I don't get how we're ever going to be safe, until there's a bulletproof vaccine.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Donnie now thinks the population of Seoul is 38m. It's not even 10m.

Fucking idiot.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

I have come to the realisation that lil' donny's press conferences are more "popular" over there than over here.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He gets big ratings. The best ratings.

I don't find him amusing, I just can't look away. It's like a fire at a carpet warehouse.