Wolves 3-0 Leicester: Verdict Thread

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Does Cunha play differently when he scores our first goal? Becomes more of a team player and looks for assists? or is it just me?

You could well be right.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Little girl next to me yesterday told her mum that it's since he had a chat with Bully that he has been so much better. She must have only been about 10

Thing is that was very much a "Bully" reaction yesterday. People forget but he missed fucking loads of chances for us. What set him apart was just writing it off as @Alan says and scoring 5 minutes later.

Bully was never ever going to be a coach or a manager (too old for it now anyway) but it's worth listening to him on mentality.

 

[Alan]

@darlowolf64

Jokes aside, yes Vardy “draws” the foul, but IMV the fact that he’s not had to meaningfully shift himself (his leg moves, what, an inch toward Sá?) is evidence that Sá has sold himself out with that massive right-foot lunge he goes into.

Anyway. That’s how I see it, feel free to disagree.

 

[Kenny]

feel free to disagree.

Thank you. Just to confirm...we do

 

[Alan]

Me telling Al he is wrong

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Aggie side-eyeing like “why aren’t you used to this yet??”

 

[AndyWolves]

@darlowolf64

Jokes aside, yes Vardy “draws” the foul, but IMV the fact that he’s not had to meaningfully shift himself (his leg moves, what, an inch toward Sá?) is evidence that Sá has sold himself out with that massive right-foot lunge he goes into.

Anyway. That’s how I see it, feel free to disagree.

The consensus seems to be that vardy moved his leg quite considerably towards to Sa to draw the foul.

There is a chance we're all wearing gold tinted glasses so it's been really disappointing non of the highlights packages I've seen make any reference to it. Comments on Reddit (fwiw) seem to agree with the view on here.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Thing is that was very much a "Bully" reaction yesterday. People forget but he missed fucking loads of chances for us. What set him apart was just writing it off as @Alan says and scoring 5 minutes later.

Bully was never ever going to be a coach or a manager (too old for it now anyway) but it's worth listening to him on mentality.

And JSL clearly has the humility to listen to him.

 

[Alan]

The consensus seems to be that vardy moved his leg quite considerably towards to Sa to draw the foul.

There is a chance we're all wearing gold tinted glasses so it's been really disappointing non of the highlights packages I've seen make any reference to it. Comments on Reddit (fwiw) seem to agree with the view on here.

Ah, it’s all good, as a needless contrarian for many years now, I know the costs of my BS.

 

[PuntsWolf]

How good a view has the ref actually got here? I imagine he’s guessed on what he thinks happened rather than what actually did. This is where “re refereeing the game” needs to happen. It’s not even a subjective call here. I can understand getting it wrong on the field, even more so when unsighted. No excuse when you can watch it back though

 

[darlowolf64]

The consensus seems to be that vardy moved his leg quite considerably towards to Sa to draw the foul.

There is a chance we're all wearing gold tinted glasses so it's been really disappointing non of the highlights packages I've seen make any reference to it. Comments on Reddit (fwiw) seem to agree with the view on here.

The majority view, not @Alan

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

And JSL clearly has the humility to listen to him.

You referenced it last week or so mate, I know Bully is not the best educated, he's obviously pure Black Country which brings its own negative (unfair) connotations, but let's not write off everything he ever says because he's from Tipton and got a bit of stage fright on Question of Sport 35 years ago.

I think you would be daft as a striker not to listen to him a little bit, and look at the journey he took, bed factory and two nights training at Tipton a week to Albion (a top flight club at the time), it's an object lesson in never giving up and always looking to improve yourself if you're a young kid who's been told they're not getting a pro deal. I know the game is different now to what it was in the 1980s, but the life lesson is the same.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

How good a view has the ref actually got here? I imagine he’s guessed on what he thinks happened rather than what actually did. This is where “re refereeing the game” needs to happen. It’s not even a subjective call here. I can understand getting it wrong on the field, even more so when unsighted. No excuse when you can watch it back though

Absolutely agree on this. I don't blame the ref at full speed with that view for getting it wrong (it is wrong, my earlier point was Sa regularly getting into that kind of situation and his enormous PK conceded ratio, which is obscene).

But if you know it's wrong and you have the tools to see it's wrong, then say it's wrong. No-one will have their nose put out of joint.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

Sá absolutely didn’t stop when he needed to, though. Vardy creates the contact but he’s hardly stretching to do so, he only needed to change the timing of his stride. That the contact is made with Sá’s groin demonstrates that IMO.

I would have been completely dumbfounded had it been overturned.

I don't like disagreeing Alan, but Vardy totally threw his leg out to the side and kicked Sa.

 

[Alan]

I'm dying on this hill, fuckers!

 

[Dire Wolf]

I'm dying on this hill, fuckers!

In this case, you've been cremated and your ashes scattered on the Molineux pitch.

 

[Alan]

In this case, you've been cremated and your ashes scattered on the Molineux pitch.

I’m good with that tbh

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Vibes are high

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[The Dude]

I know I'll probably get crucified for this, and not for the first time on this topic, but I genuinely believe they are a better midfield pair than Neves and Moutinho. They are more progressive and certainly more dynamic. Andre is as good on the ball as either of them and better off the ball, while Joao offers a lot more forward impetus. There is certainly no horseshoe of doom with them, and while they do sit in front of the defence well, they are much quicker at bringing the ball forward. I love them, and I never thought I'd see a midfield to rival Neves and Moutinho.

You're not alone in thinking that. As good as Neves and Moutinho were (at the time, possibly the two best players of my life), they were similar in too many ways.

Both of them would complement our current pairing but if you want high energy, covering every blade of grass and drive from your midfield the Portuguese pair are way off our Brazilian brace.

Gomes and André are the midfield we've always needed in my near forty years following Wolves, they're special.

 

[Tony Towner]

Although the formation is similar, we play very differently to Nuno's team. I think both pairs would be better in their respective sides. Moutinho and Neves don't have the legs. Andre and Gomes don't have the range of passing

 

[AndyWolves]

A three of Neves, Andre and Gomes would be beastly. Neves as the CDM and Andre & Gomes everywhere else.

It could work as a 532 or 433