Paddingtonwolf
Flaming Galah
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One plus point today was that Vinagre did very decently. Happy to give credit for that.
Agree with all that.Really disagree. He did OK. Majority of the chances or openings we were created were through him. He was very quiet for periods and then when he sprang to life, we looked a much more dynamic team.
Views like that on a player like Traore and also people's panicking at today's performance are a really good example of how people go to the extremes so quickly (IMO). When we were in good form people are discussing us challenging the existing order at the top of the league etc and when we are in bad form it's panic stations. We are a mid table team who will be inconsistent throughout the season. I've always thought we will finish between 8th-12th and nothing has really changed that.
Nuno will be really pissed off with that result and majority of the performance. It's a good opportunity to make some changes (I disagree about the lack of depth - only at wing back) but not for us to abandon plans, how we play or write off individuals.
MGW was very bright when he came on - though I think I would have been tempted to have changed the shape of the midfield as we were struggling to get control of the game. Traore was the right sub and I think putting him up front too was the right move - his movement in behind is much better in that role at the moment. It's an issue long term as he has to become better in his proper position at that but playing up front may actually help in the long run I think.
Think Boly and Doc had their worst games for quite a while which is a shame. Vinagre will have some tough times with his run in the team but he's going to benefit massively from the minutes and experience. I didn't think Ruben had as bad a game as people said but he certainly wasn't at his best. Definitely need more from helder in terms of output. He's a player I really love but he needs a goal badly (or an assist).
Yes thought he played well, his pace tackling back is a real asset. The half assed RWB could learn a lot there.One plus point today was that Vinagre did very decently. Happy to give credit for that.
Traore was APPALLING. I just don't understand what you were watching to think otherwise.
I think your prejudice is showing Paddy.
I don't.
Traore still created our best chance and fashioned another couple. If we are going to point fingers they need to be pointed at those who literally contribute nothing in an attacking sense.
That's a ridiculous statement. Traore was within 2 centimetres of an assist. Drew a foul in ideal Neves free kick territory and posed more of a threat than Cav and Costa combined
I think a slight formation change would be better. Our IFs are rubbish, so let's only play one and drop MGW in as 10ish to help in CM.
Ultimately it's not down to not caring etc - we have 2 fairly slow and lightweight CMs and they are getting overun at times. In the more combative games we should probably look at dendonker in there ahead of Neves or Moutinho.
Against teams who are prepared to change their formation we've been found out.
Bigger sides we can play against but I'd say every team below the top 6 will have 4 central ish midfielders and nullify us. Nuno needs to find a way to counter act that.