Traore the enigma

[Paddingtonwolf]

I feel vindicated

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

You could buy them an all inclusive five star holiday to Tenerife and they'd want one to Elevenerife

That's one of the best things you've ever posted :icon_lol:

 

[Penk Wolf]

Well pleasant post to start off with. Well here is some of my points of both the Huddersfield game and Traore so apologies for the length!
We were analysed by A. Shearer after our 1st Huddersfield defeat on Match of the Day showing how 3 Huddersfield midfielders were given jobs to man mark our midfield play-makers, Neves & Moutinho by working in a triangle around them so 1 or 2 of them were making the challenges as they were receiving the ball knowing they had a player(s) nearby to pass it off to. This was shown on prime time T.V plus it was live on Sky Sports on the 25th November 2018 for hundreds of thousand's of football fans, football people to see how the wheels completely fell off our game when this simple tactic was used. Most of our fans could see this happening with other lower league sides but it took till the Cardiff game for the system to be changed!!
We needed wide players who could run at at their shaky defences. Like Vinagre done tremendously on the left and Traore ran at them on the right as a wing-back while Saiss broke up there play in the middle. This left room for Jota and Jimenez to cause carnage in the middle scoring the goals. This system(or one very much like it) has to be used again against sides who try to man mark our midfield creators who need time on the ball.
Yes Traore has to start hitting the back of the net too, plus his decision making needs to be worked on and if this does not improve he will find himself in the future being replaced but at the moment if he can run through players and get his final ball into the box that creates a goal, well that's a useful tool to have in a young team still developing and in 7th place.

Welcome.

 

[Jinky]

Yes, they were. I know you don't like hearing it, but it doesn't make it any less true.

Whiny, moaning, entitled, delusional, unreasonable cunts if you want specifics.

Wrong.

There was a good discussion in the aftermath of that thread with some very valid points from both sides raised. And at no point did anyone feel the need to refer to anyone else as a “cunt”, either*

* Well, Johnny probably did at some point.

 

[sycophantia]

Oh goody we've gone back to the Huddersfield thread, imv no-one was being a 'cunt,' just some people commenting how bad we were, and we were very poor, there were one or two criticising Nuno for his tactics and subs, don't see anything wrong with that, surely we can criticise any player or coach for what we think was a bad performance I don't see anyone slagging Nuno off on a regular basis.
The most embarrasing thing about that thread was the bitching between individual posters, that was more boring than the comments during the game. Anyway thats my last words or thoughts on that night.

 

[StuardoWulf]

This is all a bit base now. I urge restraint!! (in language at least)

 

[Tom Hark]

I don't see much of the matchday threads because I'm always watching the game, but I certainly read plenty about them afterwards. Most people don't watch (their own team playing) football to indulge in reasoned analysis - they do so because to see them play well, score and win is one of the most anticipated highlights of the week. That coin has two sides, of course, and it's hardly surprising if emotions run high during the game, be it at the ground or in the armchair, when those hopes are dashed. To take much notice comments made in the heat of the moment on a matchday thread seems pointless. The verdict thread, by which time everyone will have calmed down a bit, is a different matter, of course, although some post-match seething is only to be expected after a truly poor performance.

 

[t3ch]

opens thread

oh no

leaves thread

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

To be brutally honest, the subject of matchday threads has been done to death. Those who are contributing to them think they are fine. And as they are the ones using it most games as those of us with issues are usually in attendance (at least for the home games) then that is fair enough.

It was me that lit that fire on the Huddersfield thread because I was surprised at the negativity level, but hey ho, nobody died did they?

 

[Boozad]

The Huddersfield thread was unbelievable which is why I stayed away from it, I just turned my PC off and went and had a fag after watching what every side has once in a while; a shit game against a shit side. It happens. After the season we've had the absolute hyperbole following that blip was eye opening to say the least, yes it was bad but "pathetic", "obvious it was coming", "Nuno needs to do some real soul searching and self analysis"... What a load of bollocks.

Totally agree with everything Dan said earlier, absolutely spot on mate.

 

[Alan]

Don't particularly feel that the divide happening on the forum this season is very healthy...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

People should fucking behave then, shouldn't they.

I'm not going to back away from criticising people who never go to games and are eternally negative about the best team they've ever seen.

 

[Alan]

There are better ways than to call people "cunts", surely.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's cuntish behaviour so it is what it is.

Sofa warriors can fuck off, honestly. We should all be in this together but to read stuff on here you'd think we were like Yeovil. So buck up or take the flak.

 

[Alan]

So what would have been the appropriate way to react to that match?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Appreciate what you have for a start.

 

[Alan]

Can't speak for others on that. But you can appreciate what we have now while understanding that performances, both on the pitch and on the bench, like those against Huddersfield aren't good enough for where we want to be. In fact, the two go hand in hand.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's the language used though, isn't it. And it happens every single game.

Look, I've spent 31 years watching this football club. We have been fucking shit for most of it. We now have a legitimately brilliant team with some incredible footballers. The way some people talk about us is disgraceful. Supposed supporters who should probably find something better to do, as they evidently derive no joy at all from watching us (at home, on an illegal stream).

I don't care who it riles, I'm not having it.

 

[Boozad]

Name me one team, one, who always play well against bad teams. Who NEVER have a bad game against lesser sides. And to think people on here were scoffing at how Spurs fans reacted when we beat them, that was exactly what happened in the Huddersfield thread. One bad game does not deserve some of the shit that was spouted in that thread after the two years we've just had.

 

[Alan]

Equally, the language you use makes it seem that anyone who levels any sort of criticism at the team or coaching staff is somehow less worthy of engaging with or supporting the team than you are.