The Road to Russia 2018

[FrankMunro-371]

Quite possibly. However, the spectre of libel litigation looms over this too. We need to be careful.

Very true. I presume that no names are to be mentioned.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The 33 Chilean miners trapped in 2010 were underground for 2 days longer than Allardyce was England manager

 

[FrankMunro-371]

The 33 Chilean miners trapped in 2010 were underground for 2 days longer than Allardyce was England manager

Good grief, was that really six years ago?

 

[Deleted Cyber]

The 33 Chilean miners trapped in 2010 were underground for 2 days longer than Allardyce was England manager

And came out of it with a lot more credit!

 

[Lord Knows]

The saddest part of this for me is that it just further confirms what an absolute gravy train football has become. No wonder players are motivated purely by money when everyone else is doing the same.

Its not really sad its just confirmation that there is a massive greed culture at the top of the English game. Nobody is really shocked, more surprised that he was so easily found out. To confound matters the bloke still feels he was hard done to rather than having a sense of shame.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

What an absolute complete an utter greedy arrogant bell end! Football is fast becoming a diuslikable sport at the top level because greed and money corrupts and there is far to much money at the top of the game

 

[arklowolf]

The saddest part of this for me is that it just further confirms what an absolute gravy train football has become. No wonder players are motivated purely by money when everyone else is doing the same.

+1
People get what they deserve.
Football has become an excuse for a sport. It used to be a mans game.
Hijacked, sanitised, commercialised, sliced and diced and served up to please the masses.
They are where the money is.
I have no sympathy for the average football fan, player, manager or club come to that.
None have got the guts to say 'enough'.

Call your soulless stadium what you will, stick some shite on the front of your shirt, change your traditional club colours, fill your league with foreign mercenaries, change the rules to suit the weakest, run your World cup wherever they'll grease your palms.
The 99.9% will just suck it up.
Greed, greed, greed.

 

[Johnny75]

Then I guess you'll never post in here again if you hate the game that much, I mean why do that to yourself..

 

[lemonjelly]

This bullshit "entrapment has won" attitude has come out with shows no remorse, no acceptance of guilt, and pretty much no conscience.

Deplorable.

 

[Kenny]

This bullshit "entrapment has won" attitude has come out with shows no remorse, no acceptance of guilt, and pretty much no conscience.

Deplorable.

Langers is clearly his new PR man......

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I wondered why Ravel Morrison was tweeting about not being listend to over Allardyce, then saw this old article alluding to some of the questionable dealings with Big Sam's agent:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/15/ravel-morrison-west-ham-united-waste

Towards the end of last year, Morrison was invited to a meeting with the football agent Mark Curtis to see if he wanted to become one of his clients. Curtis does this a fair bit with Allardyce's players. At West Ham, he either represents or has links with Allardyce, Kevin Nolan, James Tomkins, Jack Collison, Matt Jarvis, Andy Carroll, Jussi Jaaskelainen and Adrian. Look through his history and there is a fairly astounding pattern of players signing up to him from Allardyce teams. He also has a chequered past of his own, with an official warning from the Football Association after the 2008 investigation into Luton Town's illegal transfer dealings.

Morrison was not keen but, since then, his complaint is that he has felt under considerable pressure from Allardyce and Nolan to change his mind, claiming it is brought up on an almost daily basis. His grievance is that he wanted to go into training to learn and improve, not to have endless conversations about an agent he did not want to employ.

West Ham have put this to the relevant people and they strenuously deny it. Curtis says it is "nonsense", and there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing. But Morrison has become disillusioned with his manager and captain. Allardyce has talked of Morrison complaining about a groin injury when the medical staff could find no problem. Relationships have broken down. A few months ago, Morrison appeared to have the keys to the football universe. Now he cannot wait to get out of the club.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

Is that the same Scott McGarvey who trundled around upfront for us in the early 80's?

He is digging a further hole with the whole entrapment bullshit.

As for people moaning about modern football being corrupt, it always has been corrupt to a certain extent, I would say with much more electronic trailing of money etc it is possibly less corrupt then the brown paper bag days of Graham and Clough etc, just the sums are much bigger.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Is that the same Scott McGarvey who trundled around upfront for us in the early 80's?

He is digging a further hole with the whole entrapment bullshit.

As for people moaning about modern football being corrupt, it always has been corrupt to a certain extent, I would say with much more electronic trailing of money etc it is possibly less corrupt then the brown paper bag days of Graham and Clough etc, just the sums are much bigger.

It is the same Scott McGarvey.

And agreed on the misty eyed nostalgia too, Don Revie walked out on England for money before I was even born. Plus his Leeds team were tarred with match fixing and there were players convicted of it in the 60s. There is no golden innocent age to pine for.

 

[Del Woppio]

This bullshit "entrapment has won" attitude has come out with shows no remorse, no acceptance of guilt, and pretty much no conscience.

Deplorable.

Way to focus on a single word! I'm sure you've read the rest of what he's said, with clear acceptance of guilt, remorse etc. And anybody who's watched him speaking to the cameras can see how gutted he is at his stupidity.

For clarity:

""The agreement was done very amicably, I apologised to the FA and to all concerned for the unfortunate situation that I put myself in,"

" it was a silly thing to do"

"it was an error in judgement on my behalf."

"I would like to wish Gareth and all the rest of the England lads the very best."


He fucked up, he's got away with being bent all of his career, and deserves the sack - but ffs to say he's shifting the blame and not accepting guilt is basically taking part in public clamour to see who is on the highest moral ground

 

[Johnny75]

He's gutted he got caught Del, not at his own stupidity. He does blame being entrapped and he also said he was doing a favour for somebody else. The easy way out was to say 'no' or to have notified the FA about the meeting first. He did neither of those things.

The greedy cunt deserves everything he gets and blaming others is revealing him as the feckless twat he is.

 

[arklowolf]

Then I guess you'll never post in here again if you hate the game that much, I mean why do that to yourself..

I love the game. Have done since I could talk, played Saturday football to a good amateur standard for twenty years, (until my body gave out)
I don't like the commercialisation of it and what it has become. I'd like to see some change. Maybe England to pull out of the world cup in protest at the corrupt way the staging of it was awarded, that would be a start.
Still, if you like it the way it is, that's your business- suck it up!

 

[BillyDee]

To anyone who thinks corruption in football is a modern phenomenon, I refer you to Arsenal's unlikely promotion in 1919 and Sir Henry Norris' eventual expulsion from football for financial irregularities.

And Big Sam has indeed been a monumental dick.

 

[Langers]

Way to focus on a single word! I'm sure you've read the rest of what he's said, with clear acceptance of guilt, remorse etc. And anybody who's watched him speaking to the cameras can see how gutted he is at his stupidity.

For clarity:

""The agreement was done very amicably, I apologised to the FA and to all concerned for the unfortunate situation that I put myself in,"

" it was a silly thing to do"

"it was an error in judgement on my behalf."

"I would like to wish Gareth and all the rest of the England lads the very best."


He fucked up, he's got away with being bent all of his career, and deserves the sack - but ffs to say he's shifting the blame and not accepting guilt is basically taking part in public clamour to see who is on the highest moral ground

Quite right.

Allardyce is a prat who I'm pleased is no longer manager of England but I'm very disappointed how many people seem to think this level of 'journalism' is fair game, because it's big bad Sam who needed toppling from his perch.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think you're equating this with the crap that the NOTW used to pull and it isn't really on that level at all.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

This was quality investigative journalism of a man that was suspected of being a corrupt cunt. It is hardly the fucking fake sheikh. I would prefer to equate it to the two journos who locked themselves away for three months with every fucking receipt to find the proof that FIFA was bent.