The Race to be Relegated with Wolves, 24/25 Thread

[Deutsch Wolf]

3 wins out of 28 for Ipswich and people somehow think they're suddenly going to win 4 or 5. It won't happen.

 

[Bigbadwulf07]

3 wins out of 28 for Ipswich and people somehow think they're suddenly going to win 4 or 5. It won't happen.

I agree that it wont happen but they do look better than their results would suggest, today and in the cup match

 

[Sniffer]

I thought that according to their supporters a point at Vile park with 10 men and Tomaszewski in goal was going to propel them to safety?

 

[Tony Towner]

I agree that it wont happen but they do look better than their results would suggest, today and in the cup match

No real VAR hard luck stories I can think of, no real injuries. By mid March you are what the league says you are and that's a poor team.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Ipswich have got Forest and Bournemouth before we play them. We have Everton, Saints and West Ham.

They are getting zero. We should be targeting 5 minimum. Should be pretty much done and dusted by the time our game comes around

 

[sycophantia]

I realise teams coming up need to increase their squad but sometimes wonder if they should spend their money on quality rather than quantity. I suppose it's not easy to get decent quality players to go to promoted teams.

 

[jd1981]

We’ll dictate where this relegation battle goes.
A PPG means Ipswich would need 17 points from 10 matches.
If we go into a self destruct meltdown we may have a problem.

 

[sycophantia]

A lot depends how we manage for goals in the next 4-6 games.

 

[NicholasG1973]

Nothing matters if Ipswich keep losing.

 

[Tony Towner]

Nothing matters if Ipswich keep losing.

Leicester losing

 

[HanDoJin]

Nothing matters if Ipswich keep losing.

Form is temporary, class is permanent. And Ipswich were never any good in the first place

 

[The Bear]

With Cunha available we'd pull away no problem IMO. But now his absence leaves us vulnerable. And he'll likely be missing for the game against Ipswich. Lose that game, and that one fixture could make things a lot tighter than they should be.

That's why a point tonight would be very acceptable to me,as it pulls us away from them a bit further.

We're going into a 4 game spell without Cunha where now the narrative is "do not lose", rather than "win and pull away".

 

[Tony Towner]

I realise teams coming up need to increase their squad but sometimes wonder if they should spend their money on quality rather than quantity. I suppose it's not easy to get decent quality players to go to promoted teams.

I think there's a number of factors. Back to back promotions meant they had the majority of the same players from League 1 and the wage structure and prior year finances that come with that. The chances of many of those players stepping up was unlikely so the number of players required was high - they had Lee Evans getting minutes at the end of last season.

Ipswich as a location isn't attractive, probably the worst in the PL to attract people I'd have thought. Lovely countryside on your doorstep but 80 miles from a major city.

So once you realise they are unlikely to afford /attract top talent you end up going down the route they did and trying to get the best of the Championship that didn't get promoted. This is who their starting 11 today was playing for last season
Albion, Burnley, Ipswich, Hull, Ipswich, West Ham (like a pub player), Napoli, Hull, Brighton (mainly injured), Leeds, Hull.

On top of that they signed another who was at Albion, 1 from Blackburn, 1 Luton and so on.

Not sure there really was an answer as they have a good manager and haven't taken an embarrassing number of spankings, but they were always up against it even though they've spent £100m or thereabouts.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Losing at home to Southampton really fucked them.

 

[Lycan]

Yep, Leicester & Southampton have been badly mismanaged and had a chance of staying up with how bad we've been but Ipswich were always going to struggle.

 

[sycophantia]

I think there's a number of factors. Back to back promotions meant they had the majority of the same players from League 1 and the wage structure and prior year finances that come with that. The chances of many of those players stepping up was unlikely so the number of players required was high - they had Lee Evans getting minutes at the end of last season.

Ipswich as a location isn't attractive, probably the worst in the PL to attract people I'd have thought. Lovely countryside on your doorstep but 80 miles from a major city.

So once you realise they are unlikely to afford /attract top talent you end up going down the route they did and trying to get the best of the Championship that didn't get promoted. This is who their starting 11 today was playing for last season
Albion, Burnley, Ipswich, Hull, Ipswich, West Ham (like a pub player), Napoli, Hull, Brighton (mainly injured), Leeds, Hull.

On top of that they signed another who was at Albion, 1 from Blackburn, 1 Luton and so on.

Not sure there really was an answer as they have a good manager and haven't taken an embarrassing number of spankings, but they were always up against it even though they've spent £100m or thereabouts.

Yeah it's not easy, makes you wonder if it's just too much of a stretch now for promoted teams to have a chance of staying up.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah it's not easy, makes you wonder if it's just too much of a stretch now for promoted teams to have a chance of staying up.

Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford and Fulham have all come up since 2021 and are doing fine.

 

[sycophantia]

Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford and Fulham have all come up since 2021 and are doing fine.

Well yeah of course but that was 3-4 years ago and Forest had a bit of help. It just seems to be getting harder.

 

[jd1981]

The last 6 promoted clubs were always going to struggle.
Burnley low on quality and a stubborn, head coach
Luton unexpected promotion so probably under prepared.
Sheff Utd massively mismanaged after promotion
Ipswich again unexpected promotion
Leicester badly managed
Southampton badly managed/ stubborn manager.

All about planning and recruitment all the above either got ahead of where they thought they would be or totally hamstrung themselves.

 

[HanDoJin]

Brentford and Fulham will always be able to attract a player simply because they're in London. Yeah they're also well run, but they have a huge natural edge over ourselves, Leicester, Leeds etc