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The Official FIFA World Cup 2022 Megathread

Winter has nailed that.

There’s a lot of talk about changes to the starting personnel, but that’s never going to just be enough. At some stage there’ll be a ‘must win’ game that starts to slide away from us in the natural ebb and flow and that’s where the confidence in Southgate evaporates.

Sooo frustrating watching that happen right in front of your eyes and unfortunately expect the same to happen this time too.
 
Belgium are terrible, they play like they've just had a three course Sunday lunch.

Definitely offside though.
 
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Morocco get the ball in the net but VAR says Saiss is offside and interfering with the goalie's view.
HT 0-0
 
Belgium are so pedestrian, reminds me of England. To think they've had such talent wasted with barely anything to show for it, you can see a sharp decline incoming for them. Golden generation wasted by Roberto Martinez.
 
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Belgium are so pedestrian, reminds me of England. To think they've had such talent wasted with barely anything to show for it, you can see a sharp decline incoming for them. Golden generation wasted by Roberto Martinez.
Think it's just a tournament too far for a lot of them, they're old and then you have utter shite like Batshuayi filling in the gaps. They can't play with any great tempo as the legs aren't there.

2016 was their big chance, most of their squad at or near their peak, no outstanding team to go up against and the eventual winners were catshit.
 
Think it's just a tournament too far for a lot of them, they're old and then you have utter shite like Batshuayi filling in the gaps. They can't play with any great tempo as the legs aren't there.

2016 was their big chance, most of their squad at or near their peak, no outstanding team to go up against and the eventual winners were catshit.

I think player wise they still have enough to win it but Martinez keeps picking tbe same old faces.

If they put out this side it's good enough to give anyone a game.

Courtois
Castagne Faes Alderweireld Meunier
Onana Tielemens
Carrasco DeBruyne Hazard
Lukaku
 
Problem there is Hazard has barely kicked a ball in two years and Lukaku isn't anything like fit. That's loads of your attacking output that isn't ready to make an impact right here, right now. It looks better but still short of the mark.
 
Problem there is Hazard has barely kicked a ball in two years and Lukaku isn't anything like fit. That's loads of your attacking output that isn't ready to make an impact right here, right now. It looks better but still short of the mark.

Even if you drop hazard they've got Mertens or Doku. They are woefully short up top, Batshuayi is nowhere near good enough for this level.
 
Oh God yes, Batshuayi is rank.

De Ketelaere isn't an out and out striker and has had a tough start with Milan but I'd rather play him. I'd rather play Origi for that matter (not in the squad and not very good, but better).
 
Think it's just a tournament too far for a lot of them, they're old and then you have utter shite like Batshuayi filling in the gaps. They can't play with any great tempo as the legs aren't there.

2016 was their big chance, most of their squad at or near their peak, no outstanding team to go up against and the eventual winners were catshit.
2018 was their best chance personally. Loads of players on song, beat Brazil, but just couldn't get past France in the semis. If they had managed to score in that match they'd have won the World Cup IMO.

Consider the way people talk about England on here and wasting a great collection of talent (whether that is our so-called golden generation or the group we have now), we've made a semi-finals and a final in the past four years. Belgium have one semi-final and then a collection of quarter-final exists (can't see them going any further than that this time either). If we include the Nations League as a chance for silverware because Belgium have nothing they bottled a 2-0 lead v France last year.

They're definitely on the decline now and look a shadow of the side they were. But their golden generation has been wasted for sure. I imagine they often look back on that loss to Wales and the semi-final against France in the same way we see the Croatia and Italy losses, a better coach wins both matches and probably the trophy.
 
Belgium surffering from shit manager syndrome.

Seems a common disease at this WC, particularly European in nature.

Without a doubt. Southgate isn't very good but I could not honestly state that Deschamps, Martinez, Santos or the 2022 version of van Gaal are better (Mancini is, but then again he muffed qualifying, so...)

Flick is better than those five as well but then again, this evening Germany could easily be sat on 0 points.
 
Belgium surffering from shit manager syndrome.

Seems a common disease at this WC, particularly European in nature.

It's just standard for international football. When was the last time a genuine top class manager took over an international side?
 
It's just standard for international football. When was the last time a genuine top class manager took over an international side?
Enrique for Spain. Flick for Germany (although that's not working out so well)
 
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