The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2014/15

[Paddingtonwolf]

I know. Making a massive anti-Ally generalisation without basis in fact. It did make a decent soundbite though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not backing Ally for the job here but the manager doesn't guarantee a stupid wage bill. The board does. A manager may recommend a player that is not good enough and wants £40k a week but he can't give him that deal.

What a manager like that tends to guarantee is that all his targets will fit into the same bracket - generally mid-to-late 20s at absolute youngest, at or more often past their peak, limited to no resale value - and if the board say no to them then they have no other plans. DJ and Redknapp are exactly the same, just buy the same players every time or always the same profile, it ends up being a very expensive way to run a club even if the outlay doesn't look much at first glance as it's all dead money. The board can say "no, you cannot sign Kevin Doyle on £40k a week" or whatever but when the manager has such a limited outlook it means it's old lags or nothing. Of course if the club does sanction all that then the board have to take part of the blame for appointing someone who was obviously going to go down that road.

McCoist has a shit transfer policy and plays shit football, he's ended up failing with Rangers despite silly budgets, no-one is going to take him on again. He probably doesn't have to work ever again with the money Rangers have been paying him for years, he was on a silly contract as Smith's assistant and only got the manager's gig/kept it because of his playing history with that club.

 

[NorwayFB]

I know. Making a massive anti-Ally generalisation without basis in fact. It did make a decent soundbite though.

It was very good,I bought it completely!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Oddly Pardew seems to be heavily linked to the Palace job.

 

[Alan]

I'd probably want out of a place where they seem to be bent on ridding themselves of me.

 

[Hamlet]

about 52 seconds in: "the two lads in front did what I asked of them without actually finding the net"

I am so so sorry for Crawley Town...

 

[Carrotdude]

I don't understand how/why Lambert doesn't get more criticism at villa. Alan Mcinally was praising him for his great job with no money. Along with Sunderland they must be the most depressing team to support in the premier league, they play absolutely turgid stuff and barely ever score a goal or look like it. I genuinely don't understand because his Norwich team were decent to watch.

 

[andyc225]

I don't understand how/why Lambert doesn't get more criticism at villa. Alan Mcinally was praising him for his great job with no money. Along with Sunderland they must be the most depressing team to support in the premier league, they play absolutely turgid stuff and barely ever score a goal or look like it. I genuinely don't understand because his Norwich team were decent to watch.

He gets a lot of criticism, it's just that most Villa fans realise that Lerner has no intention of sacking Lambert no matter how badly things are going. Lerner is looking to sell Aston Villa and doesn't really want to invest in it. In Premier League terms Lambert has been given a pittance to work with whilst clearing out the expensive dross, much like KJ has had to for us.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Reports that Palace have agreed a compensation deal with Newcastle for Pardew. Can't be true, surely?

 

[Boozad]

It was all over MotD last night which surprised me, I just don't understand why he'd leave Newcastle to go there. Stranger things have happened I suppose.

 

[Kenny]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...on-compensation-clause-south-London-club.html

Baffling move if true really.

I know he is generally hated by the Newcastle fans but he has one of the safest jobs in football with their owner loving the fact he can piss off the fans by not binning him.

 

[Boozad]

How long has he got left on his forty-six year contract at Newcastle?

 

[darlowolf64]

Just over 5 years, it runs till 2020

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I suppose working for Ashley must take its toll in the end, much like Holloway finally had enough of working for Oyston. Pardew also has to take all of the flak from the fans as Ashley is invisible and part of his brief is to never criticise the hierarchy even when they do stuff like sell Cabaye in the middle of the season and not even try to replace him.

Palace aren't cut adrift by any means and with the number of poor teams in the division this season - incredible that West Brom and Villa aren't in the bottom three, they are awful - it shouldn't take that much to keep them up. A bit of decent work in the market next month, play with a bit more freedom than Warnock's relic football allows, and they have at least a puncher's chance of staying up. Given his popularity with the Palace fans and taking over midway through a season, unlikely he'd get binned if they did get relegated either. Plus he gets to move back down south.

In pure footballing terms it doesn't make sense as Newcastle are obviously a miles bigger club and given the turnaround he's produced, they aren't going to be anywhere near going down this season, but I can see the deeper reasoning behind it.

 

[jd1981]

I agree with DW I think the Mike Ashley factor has huge role to play in this, plus it's a former club and closer to home.
Won't take that much to get Palace safe in reality considering how poor some of the teams are down the bottom.
I think Newcastle will employ someone out of work, I think Tony Pulis would won't to go anywhere near a club owned by Ashley.

 

[Kenny]

Ally McCoist already being tipped. Probably to do with Ashleys heavy links to his former team.

 

[The Bear]

Spare a thought for poor old Deano. Just accepted a job at Crawley and then a couple of days later Prem jobs start becoming available.

 

[Nando]

McCoist :ursofunny:

Surely not!

 

[jd1981]

Any manager with any savvy wouldn't touch Newcastle it'll be a manager desperate to get back into the game.

 

[Kenny]

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ 25m25 minutes ago
Sky Sources: Reports Crystal Palace and Newcastle have agreed compensation for Alan Pardew are premature: