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The January 2025 Transfer Thread

What are the exact rules about foreign vs domestic numbers in the squad?

Assume that's where the link to Tanganga has come from, but you'd like to think there are better English/British (not sure if the difference means anything for roster construction) defenders we could get. Crap or no, Tanganga is fresh enough out of Tottenham that we'd probably be paying way too much for him regardless.
 
What are the exact rules about foreign vs domestic numbers in the squad?

Assume that's where the link to Tanganga has come from, but you'd like to think there are better English/British (not sure if the difference means anything for roster construction) defenders we could get. Crap or no, Tanganga is fresh enough out of Tottenham that we'd probably be paying way too much for him regardless.
There aren't any rules on how many domestic players you can have, it's a myth. You can only have 17 over 21 last Jan that aren't home grown qualified. We currently don't have any spaces without moving someone out/not naming them, although Mosquera will open 1 up as he's done for the season
 
You can only have 17 over 21 last Jan that aren't home grown qualified. We currently don't have any spaces without moving someone out/not naming them.
And nationality doesn't count for "home grown" - it's all about where players spent time before they were 21. Hence Fabio might well actually count as "home grown" as he's spent plenty of time attached to a club in England under that age.
(yes, I know it's technically not 21 but three weeks after they turned 21 unless the season has a "2" in it, in which case it's four years or some such silliness)

I have absolutely no clue how on earth time spent at Swansea, Cardiff, Newport or Wrexham is counted in terms of "home grown". For viewers in Scotland, replace with Berwick Rangers. And if you really want to annoy half of Ireland, think about players who spent their youth at Derry City - do they count as home grown for Ireland or for NI?
 
A player is considered homegrown if they've been registered with an FA-affiliated club for at least three years before their 21st birthday.

Players under 21 don't count towards registration rules.
 
This is our official squad list from the PL website.

Squad players (*Home grown)

1 Ait-Nouri, Rayan
2 Bellegarde, Jeanricner
3 Bentley, Daniel Ian*
4 Cabral Semedo, Nelson
5 Cundle, Luke James*
6 Dawson, Craig*
7 Doherty, Matthew James*
8 Doyle, Thomas Glyn*

9 Ganchinho Guedes, Goncalo Manuel
10 Gomes, Tote Antonio
11 Gomes Da Silva, Joao Victor
12 Hwang, Hee-Chan
13 Ignacio Bueno, Santiago
14 Johnstone, Samuel Luke*
15 Kalajdzic, Sasa
16 King, Thomas Lloyd*
17 Larsen, Jorgen Strand
18 Lemina, Mario Rene Junior
19 Malheiro De Sa, Jose Pedro
20 Mosquera Valdelamar, Yerson
21 Santos Carneiro Da Cunha, Matheus
22 Sarabia Garcia, Pablo
23 Traore, Boubacar
24 Trindade Da Costa Neto, Andre

U21 players (Contract and Scholars)
1 Almeida Lopes, Leonardo Alexandre
2 Amos, Stanley Craig
3 Ashworth, Finlay
4 Ballard-Matthews, Emilio Les
5 Barnett, Ty Kimoni
6 Benjamin, Lewys James
7 Birtwistle, Ryan James Harry
8 Bowen, Reiss Jaya
9 Bradbury, Makenzie Jack
10 Bula Dami Mane, Mateus
11 Cardoso De Lima, Pedro Henrique
12 Carson, Hayden Jack
13 Chirewa, Tawanda Blessing
14 Chiwome, Leon
15 Colesby, Ryan Stuart
16 Dayman, Myles Jayden Alfie
17 Diyawa, Aaron Keto
18 Edozie, Thomas
19 Enguru Mangue, Daniel
20 Esen, Halis Joshua
21 Farmer, Owen John-Paul
22 Forbs Borges, Carlos Roberto
23 Fraser, Nathan John Mark
24 Gidaree, Joshua Connor Valerie
25 Gonzalez Medina, Enso David
26 Gracey, Joshua Daniel
27 Griffiths, Harvey Lawson
28 Hardy, George Henry
29 Holman, Fletcher William
30 Hubner, Justin Quincy
31 Igbinoghene, Ikponmwosa Testimony Ife
32 Ji, Min Kyu
33 Kaleta, Marvin Marvellous
34 Kibrya, Lucas William
35 Lembikisa, Dexter Joeng Woo
36 Lochhead, Sebastian Scott William
37 Mabete, Filozofe
38 Martins Gomes, Rodrigo
39 Marwa, Bjorn Fabian
40 McLeod, Conor William
41 Meupiyou Menadjou, Ndemeni Bastien Chefren
42 Nasta, Arthur John Michael
43 Nolan-Ruddock, Max Ethan
44 Nyakudya, Joshua Mandlenkosi
45 O'Donnell, Luke Francis
46 Ojinnaka, Temple Uchenna
47 Okoduwa, Wesley Eboselume
48 Olagunju, Saheed Oluwapelumi
49 Osifo, David Etinosa
50 Patterson, Lennon Alex
51 Pond, Alfie James
52 Rawlings, Lucas Kai
53 Reynolds, Fabian Howard
54 Roberts, Tyler
55 Salmon, Fabian Leo
56 Storer, James Lee
57 Sutherland, Ethan Daniel
58 Voice, Caden Joh n Brian
59 White, Alfie Thomas
60 Whittingham, Matthew
61 Wilcox, Jake William Edward


We have one squad place left but it would have to be a Home Grown player as we already have 17 non-HG players.

If we wanted to sign 2 players we would have to leave Mosquera out of the squad as mentioned above, and we could then sign a non-HG player. If we wanted to sign 2 non-HG players we'd have to let someone like Sarabia leave, or leave Kalajdzic out of the squad.
 
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And nationality doesn't count for "home grown" - it's all about where players spent time before they were 21. Hence Fabio might well actually count as "home grown" as he's spent plenty of time attached to a club in England under that age.
(yes, I know it's technically not 21 but three weeks after they turned 21 unless the season has a "2" in it, in which case it's four years or some such silliness)

I have absolutely no clue how on earth time spent at Swansea, Cardiff, Newport or Wrexham is counted in terms of "home grown". For viewers in Scotland, replace with Berwick Rangers. And if you really want to annoy half of Ireland, think about players who spent their youth at Derry City - do they count as home grown for Ireland or for NI?

Hugo Bueno will be classed as home grown if he's still here next season.

Not sure on Fabio because he's spent loads of time outside the UK on loan. Not that I expect or want him to ever play for Wolves again.
 
Through my extensive scouting network (FM) I have identified Dennis Cirkin at Sunderland as an ideal HG target at LB.



2 goals and 2 assists this season. Sounds very similar to RAN in that he likes to get forward, dribbles a lot and can shoot. Decent defensively too. Bought from Spurs who had a buy back option of £6m which has now expired. Contracted to 2026. FM says he can also play CB but I'm dubious of that.
 
Through my extensive scouting network (FM) I have identified Dennis Cirkin at Sunderland as an ideal HG target at LB.



2 goals and 2 assists this season. Sounds very similar to RAN in that he likes to get forward, dribbles a lot and can shoot. Decent defensively too. Bought from Spurs who had a buy back option of £6m which has now expired. Contracted to 2026. FM says he can also play CB but I'm dubious of that.
I went to Sunderland vs Burnley this season with my brother and he was very good that game
 
If we do buy a LB it needs to be one who can manage tight spaces in the defensive third better (with possession). Maybe Rayan’s biggest weakness (IMV) is that he constantly loses the ball when we try to break a press on our left. If Cunha is nearby we can get away with it, but it’s not a small problem in Rayan’s game.

I still like him, though I often sound as if I don’t, I’m sure. I have a hard time imagining there’s much more for him to give that he isn’t already, though.
 
I wouldn’t mind Cirkin but signing a LB seems like stupid squad management when we have a potentially perfectly good one out on loan.
 
I wouldn’t mind Cirkin but signing a LB seems like stupid squad management when we have a potentially perfectly good one out on loan.
All depends whether we can recall him. Plus he'd take up Mosquera's non-HG spot, so we'd have to buy a HG CB or someone would have to leave.
 
Willing to give him a chance with a new coach but IMO there's absolutely no savior to be found in Hugo. He's totally mid.
 
All depends whether we can recall him. Plus he'd take up Mosquera's non-HG spot, so we'd have to buy a HG CB or someone would have to leave.

Hugo Bueno? No he wouldn't.

He's been here since he was 16.
 
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