The January 2024 "Will we actually sign a striker or just Che Adams/Kieffer Moore" Transfer Thread

[AndyWolves]

What's the legal status of footballers, are they contractors or FTC or something else entirely?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Vio Ganea was miles out of favour, basically called Hoddle a cunt while he was under contract, had mere weeks to go on his deal then nutted Kev O'Connor.

Did we sack him, no, because it doesn't happen.

 

[sycophantia]

Have you read the article?

Nope, not sure what difference that makes, does reading something make me believe every word they've printed? Yes, I'm quite cynical about all media.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Just in case you think I'm making it up.

Hoddle hits back at Ganea blast

GLENN Hoddle has blasted back at Vio Ganea following the unsettled striker's claims that the Wolves dressing room are not happy working for the under-pressure manager.

www.birminghammail.co.uk

March/April 2006 and his contract ended in June 2006. Didn't play a single minute for us after 11 February 2006 (17 mins vs Crewe). Final start was on 28 December 2005 at Sheff Wed.

So why wouldn't we sack him if it were so easy for football clubs to rip up deals if they hit a colleague or slag off their direct manager in public? It's a player we knew was never going to play for us again, was leaving anyway very soon, had a value of £0 to Wolves and was obviously bang to rights. The answer is it isn't very easy so it more or less never happens.

 

[The Bear]

It probably qualified for gross misconduct but I'm assuming the club thought they might wait and see if they could get a small fee for him in January.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Vio Ganea was miles out of favour, basically called Hoddle a cunt while he was under contract, had mere weeks to go on his deal then nutted Kev O'Connor.

Did we sack him, no, because it doesn't happen.

Well it does happen, Bosnich was sacked, Mutu, more recently you have Anelka at Albion, Boateng was sacked by Schalke, Osvaldo at Southampton, Evra for attacking a fan at Marseille.

Oh and going back again, Wise got sacked for lamping Callum Davidson.

It does happen.

I just think in the instance of Jonny we've either said we'll help him find a new club, but he'll never play for us again, or if we can't find him a club we'll cancel his contract, which is sacking him.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Bosnich and Mutu were drug offences which meant they literally couldn't play for anyone.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It probably qualified for gross misconduct but I'm assuming the club thought they might wait and see if they could get a small fee for him in January.

Yep, when you read Hobb's comments about Jonny it seems like it is his previous legacy and behaviour that has been considered.

Jonny's Wolves legacy is complicated - there will always be a cloud over it

Jonny Otto was part of a very successful Wolves side but the recent indiscretion will play a big part in his legacy

theathletic.com

 

[leedswolf]

Remind me when Man City sacked Joey Barton

Didn't Leicester sack Denis Wise for a training ground bust up and ending up having to reinstate him after losing their case at an industrial tribunal?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

The best one is Adil Rami getting sacked because he went AWOL to appear on Fort Boyard

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The best one is Adil Rami getting sacked because he went AWOL to appear on Fort Boyard

Not a sacking but Craig Brown tried to get Duncan Ferguson back into the Scottish fold for Euro 96.

"No thanks, I've already booked my holidays"

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Didn't Leicester sack Denis Wise for a training ground bust up and ending up having to reinstate him after losing their case at an industrial tribunal?

Not sure on the outcome of the court case, but as we know Wise was/is a cunt on Barton levels, he punched Davidson whilst he was in his bed.

Leicester sack Wise for punch that could cost £3m

Dennis Wise learned he had thrown one of the most expensive punches in sporting history when his contract was terminated by Leicester City yesterday.

www.theguardian.com

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Just in case you think I'm making it up.

Hoddle hits back at Ganea blast

GLENN Hoddle has blasted back at Vio Ganea following the unsettled striker's claims that the Wolves dressing room are not happy working for the under-pressure manager.

www.birminghammail.co.uk

March/April 2006 and his contract ended in June 2006. Didn't play a single minute for us after 11 February 2006 (17 mins vs Crewe). Final start was on 28 December 2005 at Sheff Wed.

So why wouldn't we sack him if it were so easy for football clubs to rip up deals if they hit a colleague or slag off their direct manager in public? It's a player we knew was never going to play for us again, was leaving anyway very soon, had a value of £0 to Wolves and was obviously bang to rights. The answer is it isn't very easy so it more or less never happens.

No idea why we didn't get shot of Ganea though, maybe we thought we could get a small fee, or maybe, more likely, they agreed with him that Hoddle was a cunt so it didn't feel right.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No idea why we didn't get shot of Ganea though, maybe we thought we could get a small fee, or maybe, more likely, they agreed with him that Hoddle was a cunt so it didn't feel right.

We couldn't get a fee mate, it was March 2006 at best, transfer windows closed everywhere and out of contract in mere weeks.

Legally it must be so hard to do. Football just doesn't work on normal rules does it, imagine hiring someone like Guedes and he performs like that in a normal job!

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

We couldn't get a fee mate, it was March 2006 at best, transfer windows closed everywhere and out of contract in mere weeks.

Legally it must be so hard to do. Football just doesn't work on normal rules does it, imagine hiring someone like Guedes and he performs like that in a normal job!

Yeah I know it's totally different to the normal world, but surely kicking a TV in and smashing a youth player could have seen him gone following an investigation.

The club more than likely don't want the headache of all that though.

 

[Tony Towner]

Yeah I know it's totally different to the normal world, but surely kicking a TV in and smashing a youth player could have seen him gone following an investigation.

The club more than likely don't want the headache of all that though.

He didn't smash a youth player, the player smashed him, he swung an elbow which didn't connect. If you are doing him for assault then it's the spitting at the coaching staff

 

[leedswolf]

Not sure on the outcome of the court case, but as we know Wise was/is a cunt on Barton levels, he punched Davidson whilst he was in his bed.

Leicester sack Wise for punch that could cost £3m

Dennis Wise learned he had thrown one of the most expensive punches in sporting history when his contract was terminated by Leicester City yesterday.

www.theguardian.com

"Dennis Wise is set to be awarded a £2 million payout after winning his appeal against wrongful dismissal by Leicester City in the summer of 2002".

Not reinstated. However...

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He didn't smash a youth player, the player smashed him, he swung an elbow which didn't connect. If you are doing him for assault then it's the spitting at the coaching staff

He elbowed Chirewa, I forgot about the spitting to be honest.

 

[Alan]

#lockhimup

 

[Tony Towner]

He elbowed Chirewa, I forgot about the spitting to be honest.

He didn't, you've provided the link yourself